Oregon State and Washington State homeless

[BigD]

How would you like to be their fans, AD, or players. I would think any good players will be looking to use the NIL to find a good home.

I remember when Texas and Oklahoma committed to the SEC there was talk about ISU being homeless as it was suspected that the Big 12 was done. I am not sure eventually it won’t be . I got to think that as of right now Utah will be amongst the best football team in the Big 12. I think Iowa State will do well there now that Texas and Oklahoma are gone.

What about Iowa in a league of eighteen teams. If there is no divisions where would we fall in the eighteen teams. Michigan, Ohio State, USC, Penn State, Oregon, Washington, after that it’s likely a toss up. Wisconsin, Iowa, UCLA, being in that second tier will not get you into the playoff even with expanded playoffs.

Then there’s the money involved with eyeballs associated with TV markets. I heard two announcers talking about what if Notre Dame comes on board but then what happens to a Northwestern team? Would they be dumped?

They talked about that for a while and then they talked about Iowa football. “What happens when Kirk is gone in a few years and Iowa falls into a 5-7 team (which could happen). Iowa is not in a heavy media market.” So it’s something to think about.

A few on here have made comments about Iowa being relevant nationally. If you haven’t won your conference in twenty years you’re not relevant nationally. One of the worst offensive teams in college football last year. That’s not the kind of relevance anyone wants.

With four of the best Pac-twelve teams coming into the conference next year that cracking ice sound is the ice under teams like Iowa, Indiana, Northwestern, Rutgers, Maryland, Purdue, Illinois, Michigan State, and Wisconsin. Penn State might not be on the ice but maybe the bubble or cusp. When’s the last time they won a conference title in either football or basket ball?

The point was that television/media executives could be who decide who is good enough to be included based on eyeballs on streaming media.

 

[dahlhawk]

How would you like to be their fans, AD, or players. I would think any good players will be looking to use the NIL to find a good home.

I remember when Texas and Oklahoma committed to the SEC there was talk about ISU being homeless as it was suspected that the Big 12 was done. I am not sure eventually it won’t be . I got to think that as of right now Utah will be amongst the best football team in the Big 12. I think Iowa State will do well there now that Texas and Oklahoma are gone.

What about Iowa in a league of eighteen teams. If there is no divisions where would we fall in the eighteen teams. Michigan, Ohio State, USC, Penn State, Oregon, Washington, after that it’s likely a toss up. Wisconsin, Iowa, UCLA, being in that second tier will not get you into the playoff even with expanded playoffs.

Then there’s the money involved with eyeballs associated with TV markets. I heard two announcers talking about what if Notre Dame comes on board but then what happens to a Northwestern team? Would they be dumped?

They talked about that for a while and then they talked about Iowa football. “What happens when Kirk is gone in a few years and Iowa falls into a 5-7 team (which could happen). Iowa is not in a heavy media market.” So it’s something to think about.

A few on here have made comments about Iowa being relevant nationally. If you haven’t won your conference in twenty years you’re not relevant nationally. One of the worst offensive teams in college football last year. That’s not the kind of relevance anyone wants.

With four of the best Pac-twelve teams coming into the conference next year that cracking ice sound is the ice under teams like Iowa, Indiana, Northwestern, Rutgers, Maryland, Purdue, Illinois, Michigan State, and Wisconsin. Penn State might not be on the ice but maybe the bubble or cusp. When’s the last time they won a conference title in either football or basket ball?

The point was that television/media executives could be who decide who is good enough to be included based on eyeballs on streaming media.

I haven’t liked realignment and I don’t get smug about what is happening to these teams. We could be them very easily. Hell I’m almost to the point of letting these Super Teams play with themselves, and everyone else go back to their conferences and replace those teams and refuse to play these teams. Let these 25 teams just schedule themselves, rest of the teams can return to what makes college football great. Great tradition, student athletes, and regional rivalries. Never gonna happen until the TV revenue tanks.

 

[Zstatman]

It seems OSU and WSU have one option, the Mountain West. Why would the MWC take the Pac 12 name? I wouldn't.

But maybe the MWC can be the next Big 12? Maybe they need to look east at schools that can help them grow their brand.

 

[BigD]

I haven’t liked realignment and I don’t get smug about what is happening to these teams. We could be them very easily. Hell I’m almost to the point of letting these Super Teams play with themselves, and everyone else go back to their conferences and replace those teams and refuse to play these teams. Let these 25 teams just schedule themselves, rest of the teams can return to what makes college football great. Great tradition, student athletes, and regional rivalries. Never gonna happen until the TV revenue tanks.

My Father suggested this very same thing a few years ago. I made a post suggesting that maybe Iowa would be better in the Big Twelve where they would fit in better and be a bigger fish in that pond than what they are in the Big Ten. Then maybe we could see them playing in the playoffs. We all know Iowa plays better toward the end of the season and could maybe do some damage in the playoffs. Just getting there got a lot more tougher with the best of the PAC 12 now on board.

Not gonna to kid, I feel underwhelmed by Saturdays oerformance. I am not the only one who feels this way. Many Iowa You Tubers feel similar. We were out gained by Utah State on the ground game. The got a lot more yardage on a lot less plays. That should NEVER happen. I may be wrong but I think they also out gained us in the passing game also.

Hmmmmmm I wonder why Barta retired???

 

[okeefe4prez]

Charter Communications did the unthinkable, they allowed their Disney contract to lapse and rolled into opening weekend of college football without ESPN. Disney thought they would be slick and cut the feed right before the games on Thursday night, expecting the slew of calls that Charter got on Friday would prompt them to agree to Disney's terms. It didn't work. Charter put out a press release stating that they expected to pay $2.2 billion to Disney, the overwhelming majority of which was for ESPN channels.

We have several years on the Big Ten media deal, but by 2027 or 2028 we will know Iowa's fate. I am of the opinion that the cable revenue model is completely unsustainable and that the Big Ten and SEC are in the driver's seat in terms of having desirable content. The next media rights deal will be smaller on an inflation adjusted basis and in all likelihood it will create one helluva prisoners dilemma for the blue bloods. Do they seek out more money by forming a superconference or do they try to retain some semblance of conferences to ensure that they have cannon fodder to preserve records and their brand prestige? If you cobble together the 20 best programs then some blue blood is gonna go 2-10. If I'm Michigan I want Purdue and Iowa and Michigan State around. Sure, you may lose to them on occasion, but it is way better to beat them 80% of the time in the aggregate and end up 12-0 or 11-1 than to play Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio, Georgia, etc. every week and wind up within a game of .500 many years. It's like elite status on airlines, if everyone is elite, then is anyone really elite? It will all come down to how big of a subsidy the blue bloods are willing to give to the rest of us.

I'm not disparaging Iowa here, we have a good program that does exceptionally well given our disadvantages, but Iowa's fanbase is way too small to sustain the funding needed for us to participate in any sort of elite club where each team needs to bring x million subscribers into some sort of PPV ecosystem.

 

[dahlhawk]

Charter Communications did the unthinkable, they allowed their Disney contract to lapse and rolled into opening weekend of college football without ESPN. Disney thought they would be slick and cut the feed right before the games on Thursday night, expecting the slew of calls that Charter got on Friday would prompt them to agree to Disney's terms. It didn't work. Charter put out a press release stating that they expected to pay $2.2 billion to Disney, the overwhelming majority of which was for ESPN channels.

We have several years on the Big Ten media deal, but by 2027 or 2028 we will know Iowa's fate. I am of the opinion that the cable revenue model is completely unsustainable and that the Big Ten and SEC are in the driver's seat in terms of having desirable content. The next media rights deal will be smaller on an inflation adjusted basis and in all likelihood it will create one helluva prisoners dilemma for the blue bloods. Do they seek out more money by forming a superconference or do they try to retain some semblance of conferences to ensure that they have cannon fodder to preserve records and their brand prestige? If you cobble together the 20 best programs then some blue blood is gonna go 2-10. If I'm Michigan I want Purdue and Iowa and Michigan State around. Sure, you may lose to them on occasion, but it is way better to beat them 80% of the time in the aggregate and end up 12-0 or 11-1 than to play Texas, Oklahoma, Ohio, Georgia, etc. every week and wind up within a game of .500 many years. It's like elite status on airlines, if everyone is elite, then is anyone really elite? It will all come down to how big of a subsidy the blue bloods are willing to give to the rest of us.

I'm not disparaging Iowa here, we have a good program that does exceptionally well given our disadvantages, but Iowa's fanbase is way too small to sustain the funding needed for us to participate in any sort of elite club where each team needs to bring x million subscribers into some sort of PPV ecosystem.

That kind of league is just the same as a NFL minor league. F-that, return to college football let the blue-bloods bleed out. Like you said someone used to winning will have to lose. So will they be "sent down" and replaced by the next flavor of the month. Will teams be able to move up and down? Iowa won't make that cut. Could the top non-blueblood get auto entered into the playoffs?

 

[okeefe4prez]

That kind of league is just the same as a NFL minor league. F-that, return to college football let the blue-bloods bleed out. Like you said someone used to winning will have to lose. So will they be "sent down" and replaced by the next flavor of the month. Will teams be able to move up and down? Iowa won't make that cut. Could the top non-blueblood get auto entered into the playoffs?

Due to recurring turnover associated with graduation and guys going to the NFL plus the transfer portal, which will likely see stars gravitating to blue bloods, any sort of "relegation model" in college football is totally nonsensical. You could have an absolutely stellar team one year, then have your QB, best WR and best rush end all flock to the NFL and go from 11 wins to 4 the next year. It ain't pro sports where you might have a "core" that you can keep for 5-6 years, at best a non-blue blood team will have a solid core for two years.

I shudder at the thought of Iowa having to play nothing but blue bloods during a season. Imagine 10 games against Ohio, Michigan, USC, Alabama, Florida, Georgia, Florida State, Texas, Oklahoma and Penn State. Assuming two cupcakes, even with a solid Iowa team we'd end up with a 4 or 5 win ceiling against that schedule most years. No thanks.