Orange Bow official: We didn't even want you...

I wish there was a way that NIU could just skip out of the bowl game and leave them hanging. I wish, I wish, I wish.
 
NCHawker said:
Pretty rude and crappy of this Orange Bowl rep. Even if its true, it was a done deal and for this dick to spout off like that tells me that he has no business in his role with the Orange bowlOrange Bowl rep to NIU: We didn't even want you here - CBSSports.com
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Sorry, but the real jerks here are Feldman and the CBSSports.com editors who allowed him to post, and then didn't remove, a blog post that does not include the name of at least one of the individuals involved in this supposed incendiary conversation in a hospitality suite. Color me skeptical that this ever happened...
 
I don't know if NIU is deserving or not. I really don't, but is Louisville? Wisconsin? The BCS sucks. I think the conference affiliations need to be removed, it shouldn't matter what conference you are in, if you're in the top how many you should be in a BCS bowl.
 
Yeah, it really sucks doesn't it?

All we get is Oregon vs KSTATE and ND vs BAMA.

Face it, those are the only games anyone, beyond fans of specific teams, should care about. College football was just down this year.

When you consider that USC, OSU, and PSU were all hit with major penalties, the SEC didn't have the same quality they have had and Texas is down, it makes sense. There was just no way this year that the bowl slate was going to be that great. I mean a MAC team was in a BCS bowl and 4 SBC teams are in bowls. Just a down year. Not really a BCS problem.
 
I read that article last night, my first thought was "what a jerk". If I were to say that to a client at work I would be fired immediately so maybe I was a little jealous.

But in the end it sounds like he was upset that the bowl committee didn't pick the team he wanted to play Florida State.

Heck who knows, maybe kmajhawk is right maybe it never even happened. Without names or follow up responses it is hard to believe. However, I am sure the Orange bowl officials didn't want backlash from all the Non-AQ conferences and schools. So in the end the Orange bowl official was told to go home and sleep it off because he was obviously hitting the free booze in the hospitality suite as little too hard and the NIU guy was told to shut the hell up because his opinion didn't matter, after all they were already there it didn't matter anymore if they deserved it or not.
 
Wouldn't you rather see the top 10 play in the BCS bowls. I would much rather see:

1 ND v. 2 Alabama
3 Florida v. 4 Oregon
5 KSU v. 6 Stanford
7 Georgia v. 8 LSU
9 Texas A&M v. 10 S. Carolina

Yeah, it's 6 SEC teams, but they are better than the rest of them. (You could mix up the matchups a bit to avoid rematches, but they would be a lot better than seeing Louisville or NIU)
 
It is no secret that the Orange Bowl would feel like this, the aerial shots of the stadium were sick. If you are a BCS bowl that is paying the amount of money they are to the participants they want marque match ups not Northern Illinois. Without a few trick plays Northern Illinois would have been blown out of that game well before the 4th quarter. I would have much rather seen a team like Oklahoma take on Florida State than NIU.
 
ssckelley said:
It is no secret that the Orange Bowl would feel like this, the aerial shots of the stadium were sick. If you are a BCS bowl that is paying the amount of money they are to the participants they want marque match ups not Northern Illinois. Without a few trick plays Northern Illinois would have been blown out of that game well before the 4th quarter. I would have much rather seen a team like Oklahoma take on Florida State than NIU.
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It is a product of the greatest system in the world: BCS

The postseason should be modeled after the FCS (1-AA), the bowl system is broken and has been for quite a while.

The Orange Bowl has no gripe as it is the system that it is dealt, suck it up.
 
any of you remember how bowls were alligned in the 80's and before? The back room deals that were cut - it was the wild west. Some great match ups but you rarely ever saw #1 and #2 unless ND was one of those and the other was not in the rose bowl.

Orange - Big 8 vs atlarge - Oklahoma or Nebraska -
Sugar - SEC vs at large - Alabama or Tenn or Auburn or UGA
Cotton - SWC vs at large - Texas / A&M / Arkansas

Typical atlarge teams were PSU, ND, PITT, or one of those above ......maybe a Pac team ...maybe.

Fiesta became more prominent and was an at large vs at large bowl on NY Day and caused a lot of disruption.

The lower tier bowls were truely a wild west affair. Conference alignments were not nearly as tight. Bowls had a lot of lattitude to pick from multiple conferences. Some schools cut deal prior to their last game of the season...then sometimes they lost the last game ! One time MSU cut a deal for a bowl in Hawaii prior to the last game of the season. Lots of unappy AD's.
 
If the Orange Bowl wants great teams and marquee matchups, maybe they shouldn't have made such a long term agreement with the ACC. When was the last time that conference was relevant and had a legitimate national championship contending team?
 
bighawkeyedaddy said:
If the Orange Bowl wants great teams and marquee matchups, maybe they shouldn't have made such a long term agreement with the ACC. When was the last time that conference was relevant and had a legitimate national championship contending team?
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Florida State in 1998 and 1999. That's it.
 
The ACC did pretty good this year going 4-2 overall including wins over USC and LSU.
 
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hawkfarmer said:
Wouldn't you rather see the top 10 play in the BCS bowls. I would much rather see:

1 ND v. 2 Alabama
3 Florida v. 4 Oregon
5 KSU v. 6 Stanford
7 Georgia v. 8 LSU
9 Texas A&M v. 10 S. Carolina

Yeah, it's 6 SEC teams, but they are better than the rest of them. (You could mix up the matchups a bit to avoid rematches, but they would be a lot better than seeing Louisville or NIU)
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While in theory I think what your saying makes sense before the games are played I have no problem with the way it actually played out and think NIU and Louisville deserved to be there just as much as anybody else. I won't comment on the 6 SEC teams being ranked because no one wants to hear me rant the media driven propaganda machine that is the over hyped SEC, but will add that it's hard to say NIU and Louisville didn't belong there when Florida and LSU laid eggs as well.

Despite the "unattractive" teams the fact is that IMO it's unfare to take away from what Louisville and NIU did. Regardless of what conference they were from, they were conference champions. I'm not saying that winning the MAC is the same thing as winning the SEC, or that the SEC isn't a better conference, but we're talking about teams from conferences that aren't necessarily world beaters. Maybe these teams that were "wronged" should have scheduled a NIU instead of beating up on FCS schools and other programs from less worthy conferences.

I'm tired of the talk that such and such team is entitled to be there based on the conference they come from and who they play during their conference schedule. The only way these smaller programs even get into the picture is because other schools fail to get it done. People complained about about Bama getting into the championship last year and pinned it on the other teams failing to win out and I see this as the same thing. IMO I think a conference champion is more deserving of playing in a BCS bowl, then a team that finishes second or third in their own division let alone conference. All the teams in the SEC, that missed out had their chances and actually failed to capitalize so I think it's only fair that other programs (NIU in this matter) got their chance. The deck isn't exactly stacked in favor of the non AQ programs, and let's be honest for them to even get a chance means nothing more than the fact that other teams faltered to allow them to even be in consideration for a BCS bowl game.
 
ssckelley said:
It is no secret that the Orange Bowl would feel like this, the aerial shots of the stadium were sick. If you are a BCS bowl that is paying the amount of money they are to the participants they want marque match ups not Northern Illinois. Without a few trick plays Northern Illinois would have been blown out of that game well before the 4th quarter. I would have much rather seen a team like Oklahoma take on Florida State than NIU.
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That matchup wouldn't have happened. If NIU hadn't been ranked in the top-16, and therefore hadn't been an automatic qualifier, the Sugar Bowl, which picked ahead of the Orange Bowl, would have picked OU to take on Florida, and the Orange Bowl would have gotten stuck with Louisville vs. FSU. The Orange Bowl had the last pick, so they were going to be stuck with the worst auto-qualifier this year; it was only a question of who that team would be.
 
thejumper5 said:
That matchup wouldn't have happened. If NIU hadn't been ranked in the top-16, and therefore hadn't been an automatic qualifier, the Sugar Bowl, which picked ahead of the Orange Bowl, would have picked OU to take on Florida, and the Orange Bowl would have gotten stuck with Louisville vs. FSU. The Orange Bowl had the last pick, so they were going to be stuck with the worst auto-qualifier this year; it was only a question of who that team would be.
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Even better.
 
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