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wuppup

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Game planning Iowa is pretty easy, stop Gatens, and win the game.

Who is gonna step up next year on the offensive end? We need somebody that can fill up the bucket, not sure I see that person on the projected roster for next year.
 
wuppup said:
Game planning Iowa is pretty easy, stop Gatens, and win the game.

Who is gonna step up next year on the offensive end? We need somebody that can fill up the bucket, not sure I see that person on the projected roster for next year.
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Hopefully we won't just have one scorer. We'll be more balanced. That's what you want, right?
 
Yes, but we also need someone we can rely on to score on a regular basis. With Matt leaving, I don't know where we are gonna make up for his production offensively.
 
The problem with what you are saying is that's not why MSU won the game. Iowa had 4 players (including Gatens) in double figures, and we scored 75 points.

The blueprint to beat Iowa is to beat the **** out of them on the glass and take advantage of their poor defensive rotation. That's what MSU did.
 
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DuffMan said:
The problem with what you are saying is that's not why MSU won the game. Iowa had 4 players (including Gatens) in double figures, and we scored 25 points.

The blueprint to beat Iowa is to beat the **** out of them on the glass and take advantage of their poor defensive rotation. That's what MSU did.
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Booyah!
 
How many Games did Gatens win by going off offensively? At least 4-5

Woody should help create some consistency in our D, and Rebounding. Which will be great, but we need some offense to replace Gatens if we want more wins next year.
 
wuppup said:
How many Games did Gatens win by going off offensively? At least 4-5

Woody should help create some consistency in our D, and Rebounding. Which will be great, but we need some offense to replace Gatens if we want more wins next year.
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We gave up on average of 63ppg in our 17 wins.

We gave up on average of 81ppg in our 16 losses.

This years struggles weren't offensive. They were defensive. That won't change next year.
 
DuffMan said:
We gave up on average of 63ppg in our 17 wins.

We gave up on average of 81ppg in our 16 losses.

This years struggles weren't offensive. They were defensive. That won't change next year.
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Why won't that change next year? We have some freshmen coming in who might make a difference in that regard though they will be freshmen.
 
SteveGarvey said:
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Why won't that change next year? We have some freshmen coming in who might make a difference in that regard though they will be freshmen.
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The defenive adjustment from HS to college is almost always more difficult. In addition Fran's system helps makes it eaiser on the offense. There isn't much a system can do on defense, it comes down to the ability and desire of the players.
 
If think think our freshmen

SteveGarvey said:
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Why won't that change next year? We have some freshmen coming in who might make a difference in that regard though they will be freshmen.
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will suddenly transform us into a top-flight defensive team, that is wishful thinking. Woodbury will help (as will Meyer) by adding some size. And just having more bodies (Gessell, Ingraham, Clemmons) on the perimeter will mean people can give maximum effort.

We saw in MSU today the type of physicality and athletes it takes to compete at the top levels of the conference. We're getting there, but possibly still another recruiting class away.
 
The hardest part about today's game (IMO) was that MSU didn't miss a beat when they were deep into their bench. Pretty sure their two and three deeps would beat us. We just get manhandled by any team with athletic bigs. We can't defend them and they dominate us, we can't get boards and they block / affect a lot of shots, making us hesitant. When in doubt, their bigs bailed them with and 1's.
 
We saw today how far away we are from being at the top of this conference. I believe with what we have coming in next year, we will compete for the 5-9 spots in the conference. If we are at the 5 or 6, we will dance for sure. That would be great progress.
 
DuffMan said:
The problem with what you are saying is that's not why MSU won the game. Iowa had 4 players (including Gatens) in double figures, and we scored 75 points.

The blueprint to beat Iowa is to beat the **** out of them on the glass and take advantage of their poor defensive rotation. That's what MSU did.
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and pound the ball inside if you've got the big men inside to do it.
 
lets see Iowa returns 6 out of the Top 8 scorers, Gatens #1 with 16 ppg
Cartwright #7 at 6 ppg.
Marble at 11 ppg is #2 and White at 10 ppg is #3, Basabe and McCabe at 8.5 ppg are #4 and #5, Oglesby is at 7 ppg is #6,
its not about who replaces Gatens and his 16 ppg. it is more about replacing Gatens senior leadership, the points will be replaced by Marble and White, and the other returning players.
whe you look at it there will be 6 guys that can and will split the 16 ppg, but i expect Gesell to replace Cartwrights #s, and unless you have no faith in Fran in getting a Top 100 pg that can do that then you need to find another team to follow, because i am getting sick of the negative feeling of the Iowa "can't" or needs 2-3 years to be better
we won 17 games with a team that had more weak points than any team had a right to win
 
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