Offensive Coordinator question

Other than Iowa, do OCs generally get 3 years to get their offense to work?

The serious answer is yes they do when the unit is showing improvement. Yes the offense laid an egg this Saturday, but this group is strides beyond where they were last year. Assuming they bring it up another notch next year fans should be happy with where this team is. If this unit regresses next year, then all bets are off - Not just on the offensive coordinator but the head coach as well.
 
The serious answer is yes they do when the unit is showing improvement. Yes the offense laid an egg this Saturday, but this group is strides beyond where they were last year. Assuming they bring it up another notch next year fans should be happy with where this team is. If this unit regresses next year, then all bets are off - Not just on the offensive coordinator but the head coach as well.

How many points have we scored after the first 5 B1G conference games this year, compared to last?
You'll be surprised at the answer.
 
Points are all that matter, I agree. If ya can't score nothing else matters

That said, I would also compare yards(passing & running) and 3rd down conversion. It could very well be smoke and mirrors as Jon mentioned. But it does seem like the offense us miles better...

Also you do need to consider the differences in schedule at this point vs. Last year. We have played some Much better defenses overall.

Points trump all other stats though..and we need more of them.
 
Let's see how we do against the next three defenses that aren't in the top 20 in the country. If we fail to score points or convert in the red zone, it's a problem. We have a legitimate shot to win the next three. MSU, OSU, and Wisconsin all have very good defenses. NIU, well, not so much, but without the turnovers and some bone head play selection in the second half...we should have scored 35 or more on them.

I expect us to score 28 points or more, provided the weather isn't terrible, against the next three. It's doable. IMO, we need Rudock to be the QB if that is going to happen.
 
The serious answer is yes they do when the unit is showing improvement. Yes the offense laid an egg this Saturday, but this group is strides beyond where they were last year. Assuming they bring it up another notch next year fans should be happy with where this team is. If this unit regresses next year, then all bets are off - Not just on the offensive coordinator but the head coach as well.
I would say that the offense has laid back to back eggs. The offense has been good in the first half of a few other games, but the second half has been pathetic. If the OC can't make adjustments on the fly, this offense will have a hard time "bringing it up another notch"
 
Let's see how we do against the next three defenses that aren't in the top 20 in the country. If we fail to score points or convert in the red zone, it's a problem. We have a legitimate shot to win the next three. MSU, OSU, and Wisconsin all have very good defenses. NIU, well, not so much, but without the turnovers and some bone head play selection in the second half...we should have scored 35 or more on them.

I expect us to score 28 points or more, provided the weather isn't terrible, against the next three. It's doable. IMO, we need Rudock to be the QB if that is going to happen.


I think its possible they score 4 more tds this year but a lot of things need to go just right.
 
Let's see how we do against the next three defenses that aren't in the top 20 in the country. If we fail to score points or convert in the red zone, it's a problem. We have a legitimate shot to win the next three. MSU, OSU, and Wisconsin all have very good defenses. NIU, well, not so much, but without the turnovers and some bone head play selection in the second half...we should have scored 35 or more on them.

I expect us to score 28 points or more, provided the weather isn't terrible, against the next three. It's doable. IMO, we need Rudock to be the QB if that is going to happen.

Good post... I'm in wait and see mode. I think we have played a few good defenses but I also don't see us running the uptempo or 3 TE sets and some of the things we tried earlier in the year that I thought were changes we have made for the good.

If we can't score in the next 3 and we aren't using the 3 TE set and uptempo or at least trying smething different, that's on the coaches.
 
We've played some tough defenses, but in looking at how other teams are faring against the teams we've played, we don't quite measure up:

In B1G games...

Points scored vs. Minnesota - 23; Minnesota defensive average - 30.3 (28.8)
Points scored vs. MSU - 14; MSU defensive average - 9.3 (10.2)
Points scored vs. OSU - 24; OSU defensive average - 17.0 (18.4)
Points scored vs. NW - 10; NW defensive average - 32.3 (27.8)
Points scored vs. Wisconsin - 9; Wisconsin defensive average - 19.8 (17.6)

Defensive average totals are without the Iowa game, but I put the average including the Iowa game in parenthesis.


Totals based on our points scored vs. the defenses we've played:

Iowa points for - 80; Defensive averages of the teams we've played - 108.7 (102.8)
 
We've played some tough defenses, but in looking at how other teams are faring against the teams we've played, we don't quite measure up:

In B1G games...

Points scored vs. Minnesota - 23; Minnesota defensive average - 30.3 (28.8)
Points scored vs. MSU - 14; MSU defensive average - 9.3 (10.2)
Points scored vs. OSU - 24; OSU defensive average - 17.0 (18.4)
Points scored vs. NW - 10; NW defensive average - 32.3 (27.8)
Points scored vs. Wisconsin - 9; Wisconsin defensive average - 19.8 (17.6)

Defensive average totals are without the Iowa game, but I put the average including the Iowa game in parenthesis.


Totals based on our points scored vs. the defenses we've played:

Iowa points for - 80; Defensive averages of the teams we've played - 108.7 (102.8)

Agreed. We've seen time and time again (and not just this year, either) our offense go up against an alleged "weak defense", and still struggle to score points.

We can move the ball all we want between the 20's.. None of it matters much if it doesn't result in points. I recall the 2011 loss @Minnesota, where Coker was breaking off big runs left and right and had something like 150-200 rushing yards in the first half. Yet, the game was tied 7-7 at halftime. Case in point.

KOK or GD, it doesn't seem to make much difference so far.
 

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