NY Day Bowls - just a bit less crowded





Thanks for the link....I was confused about the NY's Day bowl lineup....thought that the 31st and 1st were going to be limited to only the top 12 teams playing in the Big 6 bowls...but glad that the Outback and Capitol One are still early on NY Day...with the Big Ten in them....liking how this shapes up. Iowa needs to play in that two day period most years...tough to do, but we are IOWA!
 




My two cents about this bowl mess:

#1--Used to be Outback and Cap-1 shared one quarter (4th for OB, 1st for Cap1)....now they completely overlap. Sucks, especially for the Cap-1 bowl.

#2--There could also be a third bowl near the same time with a B1G team in it....Heart of Texas Bowl.

#3--The hierarchy/timeslots for the bowls is all screwed up. Why is the TaxSlayer bowl (formerly the Gator bowl), a lesser bowl than either Outback or Cap-1, played a day later, and, against no TV competition?

#4--39 bowl games this year = 78 teams. There are 126 Div-1 teams. 62% of teams can play in a bowl. Absurd. But it's still used as a measuring stick of a successful season. *Not* making a bowl should be used as a very negative measuring stick instead.

Used to be a time playing in a bowl game meant a reward for a decent season. 6-6 is not decent. 7-5 is not decent. Sub-.500 conf record is not decent. Now it's all about "extra practice time" and "a reward for the seniors." All utter nonsense.

My predictions are:

The playoff will eventually reach 16 teams. (Eight teams next, then 16)
Minimum win totals in order to play in bowl game must be *two* games over your loss record, plus, at least .500 conf record
All the 6-6 bowl games will cease to exist.

We'll have a true champion determined on the field, and, those truly earning a bowl game will play in one.

Oh, and yes, lest I forget, players will receive some sort of educational stipend from the billions of dollars generated off their blood sweat and tears.
 


According to what they are saying on ESPN ect, there will be only bowls on NY's Eve and NY's Day...the Big Six( Rose, Sugar, Cotton, Orange, Fiesta, Peach), and then the other two...Outback and Capitol One. Outback will start at 10:00 am, and Capitol at 11:00 am....so they overlap,like they always have.

I think this is huge improvement over what the Big Ten has had in recent years,with 4 games overlapping on NY's Day.
It will be in place for at least a decade, so speculation about expansion of the playoff is way premature. In fact, some AD's are on record that it will not ever expand....too many games.

As for the Bowl expansion...it is a bit deceiving....they are creating more bowls that will cater to the non-BCS schools, as they are shut out of the playoffs. The number of bowl alliances for the Big Ten will stay the same, so why the worry about undeserving teams? Just boycott them if they offend you.

I do think the bowls will lose some relevance beyond those two days....Iowa needs to play on those two days about 40% of the next decade.... 4 of 10 years....to stay relevant.
 


A 16 team playoff makes sense to me. It will take 4 weeks to complete. Using last season as a sample of how it might playout.

Thanksgiving was on 28th - and on the 30th regular season's wrapped up.

Saturday's in December
7th - conference championship games
14th - 1st round of 16
21st - 2nd round of 8
28th - 3rd round of 4
January 4th Championship saturday

I think they'd give a week or two rest and peg the last game to the 2nd saturday in january and back into it.

However, the BCS games were never tied to Saturdays. But they want to avoid conflicting with the NFL.
 
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The Tournament of Roses will remain on NY Day and those people like to have their game on that day too. So We'll just see how that fixture plays into the overall apparatus.
 


tweeterhawk said:
Someone should tell Jamie Pollard New Year's Day bowls just became more significant. Not that his department will ever know.
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Actually, I think Playoff Game is really the only true significant term now.

If not, the January One needs to be extended to add New Year's Eve as well and the significance of the term "January Bowl" is now lost.

It it will be interesting to see how the bowls between the semi-finals and finals do.

Overall the the system is a mess. Games designated playoff games that don't allow teams to play into the final.

Trying to have it both ways seldom is satisfying.
 






NCHawker said:
A 16 team playoff makes sense to me. It will take 4 weeks to complete. Using last season as a sample of how it might playout.

Thanksgiving was on 28th - and on the 30th regular season's wrapped up.

Saturday's in December
7th - conference championship games
14th - 1st round of 16
21st - 2nd round of 8
28th - 3rd round of 4
January 4th Championship saturday

I think they'd give a week or two rest and peg the last game to the 2nd saturday in january and back into it.

However, the BCS games were never tied to Saturdays. But they want to avoid conflicting with the NFL.
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This would be extremely difficult in terms of mobilizing a large fan base on a weekly basis. This is made for TV, not the truest fans of a team. I would not trade a typical bowl experience for a 16 week playoff.
 


MisterLucky said:
Until the Clowns make it to a New Year's Day bowl, those bowls are just not that important.
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I like you and I really didn't want to call you out on this, but this post is pretty stupid. Think about it for a minute - you can kick off at 9 PM on December 23 on NFL Network and be the only game on TV or you can get packed into a big group of other games and get less publicity. Recruits notice those teams that have monopolies on their time slots and to build a Program On The Rise, you don't want to be stuck in those non-ideal bowl time slots.
 






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