NFL rules and replay situation is becoming a joke

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uihawk82

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Just compare the Dez Bryant catch-reversal-no catch versus the way the refs and replay treated the Indy fumbled punt recovery by Denver- the review- then reversal.

How can a receiver go up, catch a ball, come down with his feet down and take what I saw as two full strides (some people said 3 strides) then he is touched by the defender and as Bryant hits the ground I think his leg and knee hit first making him down and then the ground shouldnt be able to cause a fumble. Now compare that to the Indy punt returner Cribbs simultaneously catching the punt, getting hit by his own guy and a Denver gunner, and fumbling in a split second before he makes any football move, and the ball is clearly recovered by Denver- then the replay and review - and for some totally unknown reason the ref and replay official say they are giving the ball to Indy.

Now I will say I really had no dog in the Indy-Denver game but was leaning a little more toward Indy because of Pagano. I was slightly pulling for Dallas but I dont like Jerry Jones but do like the cowboys of the past.

Someone please explain or add their two cents worth to this example and some of the other weird calls, like Hitchens PI-no PI call the week before against the Lions. Is it as simple as as wanting certain teams to remain alive to generate TV ratings???

I hope the NFL changes the pass catching rule that if a player catches it, makes a move, is touched and down in field of play or pushed out of bounds and coughs up the ball after they are down but hit the ground that is still a catch. The endzone is different, need to hold onto the ball.
 
I think there should be a distinction between laying out to catch a ball and having to hold onto it when you hit the ground, and jumping up to catch it, landing on your feet, and your momentum making you fall from there. It's an insult to common sense to say Bryant's catch wasn't a catch. Anyone who knows anything about catching a ball could tell plain as day that he had possession. When a rule counters common sense, the rule needs to change.
 
Also his 2 steps was an attempt to not fall down. The fact that gravity was going to win that battle 100% of the time should be irrelevant. An attempt to not fall should be considered a football move.

PS I hate the ******* cowboys.
 
hopefully the dez bryant 'no catch' will change the rules to what a 'catch' is deemed to be. this stuff is driving the sport into the ground IM0 - what is a catch, what is possession, good grief. if dez didn't possess the ball, how in the hell did the colts punt returner possess the ball when he fumbled after being run into by his own guy - he simply caught the ball, was hit, dropped to the ground and dropped the ball which was recovered by the broncos. no steps taken. but he was ruled down. how is that possession and bryant not?

bryant catches the ball, takes 3 steps, lunges for the goal line, in which his elbow touches the ground prior to the ball coming lose, which would indicate he was down, and the ball comes lose subsequently....but no football move involved....???...total insane craziness.....
 
Megatron dropped the ball while in the act of standing up to celebrate. How is standing up not considered a football move?
 
imported_ankle23 said:
hopefully the dez bryant 'no catch' will change the rules to what a 'catch' is deemed to be. this stuff is driving the sport into the ground IM0 - what is a catch, what is possession, good grief. if dez didn't possess the ball, how in the hell did the colts punt returner possess the ball when he fumbled after being run into by his own guy - he simply caught the ball, was hit, dropped to the ground and dropped the ball which was recovered by the broncos. no steps taken. but he was ruled down. how is that possession and bryant not?

bryant catches the ball, takes 3 steps, lunges for the goal line, in which his elbow touches the ground prior to the ball coming lose, which would indicate he was down, and the ball comes lose subsequently....but no football move involved....???...total insane craziness.....
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Crazy and making it harder to watch all these replays.

And Fox, CBS, etc do not do anybody any favors having these retired officials like Perrera and Carey in the broacast booths or on the broadcasts trying to guess or analyze the replays, then give their view, as they are wrong 50% of the time. This just goes to show how iffy and bad the replay has become.
 
Full disclosure... Packers fan. My initial reaction was it was a terrible challenge by McCarthy because I thought the call would stand as I thought it was an incredible catch.

With that said I listened to some of Mike and Mike this morning and they had Redskin DB Ryan Clark on the show who I think makes the best point to the argument.... to recap.

Changing the language of the rule will require more interpretation from the officials.

As fans I'm not sure I want to give that responsibility to an official and if I were an official, I wouldn't want it either.
 
The third time Dezs foot hit the ground should have been all it took. But for good measure it looked like his right elbow hit the ground at the same time as when the ball did before he bobbled it. So he should have been down by contact inside the 1. That's when the play ended. So now being off balance which is a pretty subjective thing when you are dealing with the athletes at that level is something officials have to take into account... I thought the fact a player had not 2 but 3 feet down with full control of the ball would have done that. Totally agree with those that have said it's common sense. My eyes told me that was a catch in real time and slow motion only confirmed that. If the NFL doesn't change that rule they have a problem
 
So the question to be considered years from now is would we know who Dez Bryant was if it wasn't for the call/blown call. Wonder what Ray Rice thinks.
 
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