NCAA Penalizes Golfer for Washing Car on Campus

[SPGroth]

NCAA penalizes golfer for washing her car - ESPN

You would think that the NCAA would have important things to look in to!

"Just heard about two NCAA violations in WCC. 1) athlete using Univ. water to wash car, 2) coach text recruit 'who is this?'"

 

[Eda]

NCAA penalizes golfer for washing her car - ESPN

You would think that the NCAA would have important things to look in to!

"Just heard about two NCAA violations in WCC. 1) athlete using Univ. water to wash car, 2) coach text recruit 'who is this?'"

You would think.
Maybe someone can point them in the direction of the SEC.

 

[tksirius]

The NCAA seems eerily similar to the FDA.

 

[GoHawks24]

The NCAA is such a freaking joke.

 

[GoHawks24]

The NCAA seems eerily similar to the FDA.

Good for pretty much nothing? Seems pretty accurate.

 

[hawkfan33]

NCAA penalizes golfer for washing her car - ESPN

You would think that the NCAA would have important things to look in to!

"Just heard about two NCAA violations in WCC. 1) athlete using Univ. water to wash car, 2) coach text recruit 'who is this?'"

The school self reported the violations so it's not like the NCAA was out looking for these violations, but that doesn't really fit with the "NCAA is terrible" narrative.

 

[GoHawks24]

The school self reported the violations so it's not like the NCAA was out looking for these violations, but that doesn't really fit with the "NCAA is terrible" narrative.

I think sending a recruit a text reading "who is this?" and receiving a violation for it is the exact definition of the "NCAA is terrible".

 

[Eda]

The school self reported the violations so it's not like the NCAA was out looking for these violations, but that doesn't really fit with the "NCAA is terrible" narrative.

Mark Emmert, is that you?

 

[1hawkeye1]

Thank gawd these evildoings have been found out and eradicated.

 

[Section136]

Rules are rules.

 

[kicker22]

While I agree that these violations are sad and a bit on the ridiculous side, I honestly see the NCAA as a double edged sword with no definitive answer. There are major issues with consistency and the major allegations that get over looked or ignored and little things like this that surface. However, by dismantling the NCAA I honestly don't see what that would gain. We know how corrupt things are now with a governing body in place but yet without the NCAA each school would be in a position to self regulate and comply universally to see that all rules are followed. I don't see that happening.

I think the NCAA needs to be restructured so the miniscule violations like this these seem to go away and the bigger issues are focused on. The problem is that regardless of what steps they take, rules (no matter how major or miniscule) are going to be broken whether by accident or intentionally and I don't think there is an answer for it.

 

[sportstalent]

While I agree that these violations are sad and a bit on the ridiculous side, I honestly see the NCAA as a double edged sword with no definitive answer. There are major issues with consistency and the major allegations that get over looked or ignored and little things like this that surface. However, by dismantling the NCAA I honestly don't see what that would gain. We know how corrupt things are now with a governing body in place but yet without the NCAA each school would be in a position to self regulate and comply universally to see that all rules are followed. I don't see that happening.

I think the NCAA needs to be restructured so the miniscule violations like this these seem to go away and the bigger issues are focused on. The problem is that regardless of what steps they take, rules (no matter how major or miniscule) are going to be broken whether by accident or intentionally and I don't think there is an answer for it.

Here is what the NCAA needs to do: Stop paying for free tanning for Mark Emmert

On a more serious note; the NCAA wouldn't be viewed in the way it is if the organization that preaches ethics had them themselves. The debacle that has become the Miami investigation and the PSU stuff is only getting started...again. It is viewed in a light that they pick and choose their battles, but even the battles they choose they screw up.
The NCAA focuses on low hanging fruit like in the two stories mentioned above and gets "credit" for saying they enforced something; while that may be true, how did it work out when they took on the OSU case and allowed players to remain eligible for a bowl game and then were suspended later? How did it work when Cam Newton was allowed to plead ignorance and Auburn won a Nat'l Championship, all the while more and more smoke rings are being released about them now that GC is out?
The sheer number of people the NCAA employs to investigate these infractions does not compare in how many people they should actually have doing so. At one time they had less than 10 investigators and this is less than 10 years ago. Reggie Bush ring a bell? It is the timeliness of investigations that is confusing, the short and the long ones, but especially the long ones when players get punished for things that were done sometimes 5+ years before they set foot on campus, or the coach gets to walk away with no sanctions.
I agree that a restructure is in order, but I want to know about the real scandals that are going on and how the NCAA is cracking down on those people. They smaller violations still have to be enforced, but with how the NCAA continues to drop the ball on these investigations is sad and makes them seem like a joke. This organization makes how much money per year? Eliminate the budget for tanning and institute a real enforcement staff and police the organization and its members accordingly.

 

[kicker22]

Here is what the NCAA needs to do: Stop paying for free tanning for Mark Emmert

On a more serious note; the NCAA wouldn't be viewed in the way it is if the organization that preaches ethics had them themselves. The debacle that has become the Miami investigation and the PSU stuff is only getting started...again. It is viewed in a light that they pick and choose their battles, but even the battles they choose they screw up.
The NCAA focuses on low hanging fruit like in the two stories mentioned above and gets "credit" for saying they enforced something; while that may be true, how did it work out when they took on the OSU case and allowed players to remain eligible for a bowl game and then were suspended later? How did it work when Cam Newton was allowed to plead ignorance and Auburn won a Nat'l Championship, all the while more and more smoke rings are being released about them now that GC is out?
The sheer number of people the NCAA employs to investigate these infractions does not compare in how many people they should actually have doing so. At one time they had less than 10 investigators and this is less than 10 years ago. Reggie Bush ring a bell? It is the timeliness of investigations that is confusing, the short and the long ones, but especially the long ones when players get punished for things that were done sometimes 5+ years before they set foot on campus, or the coach gets to walk away with no sanctions.
I agree that a restructure is in order, but I want to know about the real scandals that are going on and how the NCAA is cracking down on those people. They smaller violations still have to be enforced, but with how the NCAA continues to drop the ball on these investigations is sad and makes them seem like a joke. This organization makes how much money per year? Eliminate the budget for tanning and institute a real enforcement staff and police the organization and its members accordingly.

Agree 100%. The problem is that as we are well aware the universities themselves are in no way shape or form able to play by the rules and the agency that should be regulating them is a joke. If the universities could play by existing rules creating a level playing field, then the NCAA wouldn't be needed, but unfortunately thats not the case. Someone/something needs to do the regulating, but unfortunately at this point in time the NCAA is as much the problem as it is the solution.

 

[hawkfan33]

Here is what the NCAA needs to do: Stop paying for free tanning for Mark Emmert

On a more serious note; the NCAA wouldn't be viewed in the way it is if the organization that preaches ethics had them themselves. The debacle that has become the Miami investigation and the PSU stuff is only getting started...again. It is viewed in a light that they pick and choose their battles, but even the battles they choose they screw up.
The NCAA focuses on low hanging fruit like in the two stories mentioned above and gets "credit" for saying they enforced something; while that may be true, how did it work out when they took on the OSU case and allowed players to remain eligible for a bowl game and then were suspended later? How did it work when Cam Newton was allowed to plead ignorance and Auburn won a Nat'l Championship, all the while more and more smoke rings are being released about them now that GC is out?
The sheer number of people the NCAA employs to investigate these infractions does not compare in how many people they should actually have doing so. At one time they had less than 10 investigators and this is less than 10 years ago. Reggie Bush ring a bell? It is the timeliness of investigations that is confusing, the short and the long ones, but especially the long ones when players get punished for things that were done sometimes 5+ years before they set foot on campus, or the coach gets to walk away with no sanctions.
I agree that a restructure is in order, but I want to know about the real scandals that are going on and how the NCAA is cracking down on those people. They smaller violations still have to be enforced, but with how the NCAA continues to drop the ball on these investigations is sad and makes them seem like a joke. This organization makes how much money per year? Eliminate the budget for tanning and institute a real enforcement staff and police the organization and its members accordingly.

The main problem is that the NCAA has no real investigative power. It can't force anyone to testify. It can't subpeona bank statements It has absolutely no ability to penalize people who have already moved on from college. They can hire a thousand more investigators but unless people are willing to talk to them, they still won't find anything out. That's why they can only penalize that cases that are served up to them on a silver platter. Like grand jury investigations or self reported illegal car washes.

 

[sportstalent]

The main problem is that the NCAA has no real investigative power. It can't force anyone to testify. It can't subpeona bank statements It has absolutely no ability to penalize people who have already moved on from college. They can hire a thousand more investigators but unless people are willing to talk to them, they still won't find anything out. That's why they can only penalize that cases that are served up to them on a silver platter. Like grand jury investigations or self reported illegal car washes.

Then they need to figure out a way to be able too...

 

[SmokeTownHawk]

The main problem is that the NCAA has no real investigative power. It can't force anyone to testify. It can't subpeona bank statements It has absolutely no ability to penalize people who have already moved on from college. They can hire a thousand more investigators but unless people are willing to talk to them, they still won't find anything out. That's why they can only penalize that cases that are served up to them on a silver platter. Like grand jury investigations or self reported illegal car washes.

As it is now having the NCAA in charge of rules and regulations in member schools is akin to having the Chamber of Commerce oversee white-collar and corporate crimes.