Mississippi State Misconduct

I would guess 99.9% of colleges are guilty of what happened at MSU.

I guess they got spooked into self-reporting because they AREN'T a blue-blood?
 
Chickenlounge said:
As Cardale Jones once famously said, "We ain't come here to play school."
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I may have missed it, but did anyone get the clip where Cardale went on to say "I ain't here to play NFL?". Glad he didn't waste anymore time in college getting a jump on that solid NFL career. What a waste.
 
The issue is the rule. Sime kids in hs go to schools that readily give academic support for learning disabilities. Others dont due to budgets or just no money. My kids go to an affluent school and the school fights any support tooth and nail. It happens in suburban schooks not wanting kids from poorer areas. Poor schools just dont have the money or experienced teachers.

Its a joke that wealthy can buybtheir way to success. At a Big U it just came out that rich parents have been adopting out their kids..seriously..to less rich families for financial aid.

A local black kid ..white parents has serious learning issues. Really nice kid. Tries hard. Great linebacker. Lower D1 talent. Cant do act. Struggles w Geometry and algebra. Artuculates self well. Terrible at spelling. Why make it so hard at getting in to college?

Lets be real. College football where coaches make millions is not about academics. Only 28 percent of people achieve a BS. So why not then just not allow the bottom 2/3 s of students to play college football if it s about academics?

Why not disallow Nebby and OU that have really low admission standards to just lose accreditation? Make Iowa on probation fow not being much above that?

Of course that crazy. But the pretend game is just as crazy.

We can make fun of MSU but the state is very poor. School funding is terrible. Alabama and Mississippi U s free tuition to kids from my local Midwest state kids who are good but not great students as they struggle to find MS and AL kids who can qualify at their own state schools for enrollment.

The whole situation is a farce.

Can also guarantee that all footbsll programs will struggle more to find higher academic kids who play football due to brain injuries.
 
HawkGold said:
The issue is the rule. Sime kids in hs go to schools that readily give academic support for learning disabilities. Others dont due to budgets or just no money. My kids go to an affluent school and the school fights any support tooth and nail. It happens in suburban schooks not wanting kids from poorer areas. Poor schools just dont have the money or experienced teachers.

Its a joke that wealthy can buybtheir way to success. At a Big U it just came out that rich parents have been adopting out their kids..seriously..to less rich families for financial aid.

A local black kid ..white parents has serious learning issues. Really nice kid. Tries hard. Great linebacker. Lower D1 talent. Cant do act. Struggles w Geometry and algebra. Artuculates self well. Terrible at spelling. Why make it so hard at getting in to college?

Lets be real. College football where coaches make millions is not about academics. Only 28 percent of people achieve a BS. So why not then just not allow the bottom 2/3 s of students to play college football if it s about academics?

Why not disallow Nebby and OU that have really low admission standards to just lose accreditation? Make Iowa on probation fow not being much above that?

Of course that crazy. But the pretend game is just as crazy.

We can make fun of MSU but the state is very poor. School funding is terrible. Alabama and Mississippi U s free tuition to kids from my local Midwest state kids who are good but not great students as they struggle to find MS and AL kids who can qualify at their own state schools for enrollment.

The whole situation is a farce.

Can also guarantee that all footbsll programs will struggle more to find higher academic kids who play football due to brain injuries.
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Your High School gripes are irrelevant to the college academic enrollment.

Your question of why make it so hard to get into college doesn’t make much sense.

First, College is easy to get into. It may not be the college the person wants to that is a equivalent to their athletic ability but tough. If the person only cares about going to pro sports then go to the level of school that you are academically qualified to get into. The pro scouts will find you.

Second, Universities weren’t built for sports or football. They are called institutions of “higher learning”.

There is no Right for an athletic scholarship to showcase one’s talents at the collegiate level for a pro sport.

Most times when someone is said to have a learning disability that person is just not smart. Just like a lot of people that can’t run a 4.8 40 or throw the ball 40 yards. Those people don’t have a physical disability; they just don’t have physical talent — similar to people who are not smart not having “brain talent.”

This whole idea that physically talented people should get a shot at college to showcase their merit for a pro sports job while not having to merit their way into an institution of higher learning academically is a farce.
 
DDThompson said:
Your High School gripes are irrelevant to the college academic enrollment.

Your question of why make it so hard to get into college doesn’t make much sense.

First, College is easy to get into. It may not be the college the person wants to that is a equivalent to their athletic ability but tough. If the person only cares about going to pro sports then go to the level of school that you are academically qualified to get into. The pro scouts will find you.

Second, Universities weren’t built for sports or football. They are called institutions of “higher learning”.

There is no Right for an athletic scholarship to showcase one’s talents at the collegiate level for a pro sport.

Most times when someone is said to have a learning disability that person is just not smart. Just like a lot of people that can’t run a 4.8 40 or throw the ball 40 yards. Those people don’t have a physical disability; they just don’t have physical talent — similar to people who are not smart not having “brain talent.”

This whole idea that physically talented people should get a shot at college to showcase their merit for a pro sports job while not having to merit their way into an institution of higher learning academically is a farce.
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Wrong in so many ways.

The system is a joke.

LD s are real.

Im not wrong. Mississippi schools are terrible. They dont have supports that generally others get. The world isnt as blackband white as you want it. I get that.

So what dies college football really have to do with higher learning ? Be honest.
 
HawkGold said:
Wrong in so many ways.
You are the one that's wrong.
Whining about it is not evidence that you're right and anyone that disagrees with you is wrong.

The system is a joke.
The system is malfunctioning in that the tail is trying to wag the dog

LD s are real.
Typical straw man argument. I didn't say they weren't. I said most times people diagnosed with it are just not smart. There are people that just don't have brain talent just like there are people that don't have physical talent. Sorry to break the new news to you.

Im not wrong. Mississippi schools are terrible. They dont have supports that generally others get. The world isnt as blackband white as you want it. I get that.
I don't care about Mississippi schools. People who live in Mississippi should care about Mississippi schools.

I know the world isn't black and white. It's gray. It's unfair. That's where the beauty of meritocracy shines. Success most of the time means a person overcame gray areas and the unfairness of life.

You are the one seeing life in black and white -- crying because life is unfair -- that some have wealth or are smart enough; and then those that don't have those advantages should have unequal measurements given to them so they can show their merits in an athletic endeavor. Yet you don't see the complete hypocrisy in your argument.

So what dies college football really have to do with higher learning ? Be honest
I'm honest all the time. I've already answered the question in the previous post and this one.
But instead of re-setting the system to have the dog wagging the tail, you want to have the hair of the tail wag the tail to wag the dog.

Why do you think that a person that has talent for high D-1 in sports has to go to a highly esteemed D-1 educational institution? What's unfair about that person going to a juco or community college institution and playing their sport there? Be honest.
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