McCaffery has already made one BIG mistake

[BSpringsteen]

Fran has already made one big mistake which was attempting to soften the blow of Larson asking out, by stating that he still had a lot of interest in coming to Iowa.

If he doesn't re-commit, that will now fall directly on McCaffery as a recruiting failure. If Fran had kept his mouth shut about it and managed to get Larson back in the fold, he would have ben a magic man.

A simple piece of strategy can make a big difference on how you are perceived by the fanbase. The positive outcome is the same, but the negative is much worse in one scenario.

 

[busabus114]

I see what you're saying but i dont think anyone really expects Larson to re-sign with Iowa. A recruit isnt going to ask for his release only to sign with that same school again. Has this ever happened?

If Larson doesnt re-sign I wont consider it a failure by Fran. Larson and all of the recruits signed onto play for Lick and his staff, some losses are to be expected

 

[83Hawk]

I disagree. You can't call failing to "re-recruit" Larson a failure on Fran's part.

First off...maybe Larson really has no intention of coming to Iowa.

Second...maybe Fran doesn't really want him. Maybe Fran would not have recruited him in the first place.

 

[ShadasRevenge]

Fran has already made one big mistake which was attempting to soften the blow of Larson asking out, by stating that he still had a lot of interest in coming to Iowa.

If he doesn't re-commit, that will now fall directly on McCaffery as a recruiting failure. If Fran had kept his mouth shut about it and managed to get Larson back in the fold, he would have ben a magic man.

A simple piece of strategy can make a big difference on how you are perceived by the fanbase. The positive outcome is the same, but the negative is much worse in one scenario.

Really? To say that this is a reach is a reach in it's own right.

 

[BSpringsteen]

I'm not saying that I agree with what I wrote personally, but you don't think that there is a danger in that being the perception and shortening the honeymoon?

 

[ShadasRevenge]

I'm not saying that I agree with what I wrote personally, but you don't think that there is a danger in that being the perception and shortening the honeymoon?

How can you not agree with something you wrote? To answer your second question, no. Fran has been on the job for three weeks now, and there were rumors of player transfers for weeks towards the end of the year. It appears that Fuller was going to be gone no matter who was coaching him, and while the potential losses of Larson and Brust are unfortunate, they were commited to Lickliter, not Fran.

 

[CAARHawk]

Yes, but top coaches can absorb these losses and bring top talent with them. The guys that aren't top coaches just absorb the losses.

I understand what Bruce was saying. However, I think it is a reach. I think the bigger problem was saying how everyone seemed "excited" when he first got here. Or maybe that was a typo and it was supposed to be "everyone exited."

 

[DYK88]

I'm not saying that I agree with what I wrote personally, but you don't think that there is a danger in that being the perception and shortening the honeymoon?

LOL. Thanks for the laugh this morning.

 

[ShadasRevenge]

Yes, but top coaches can absorb these losses and bring top talent with them. The guys that aren't top coaches just absorb the losses.

I understand what Bruce was saying. However, I think it is a reach. I think the bigger problem was saying how everyone seemed "excited" when he first got here. Or maybe that was a typo and it was supposed to be "everyone exited."

Something you're not willing to give Fran a chance on, it would seem.

 

[J10Hawk]

Fran has already made one big mistake which was attempting to soften the blow of Larson asking out, by stating that he still had a lot of interest in coming to Iowa.

If he doesn't re-commit, that will now fall directly on McCaffery as a recruiting failure. If Fran had kept his mouth shut about it and managed to get Larson back in the fold, he would have ben a magic man.

A simple piece of strategy can make a big difference on how you are perceived by the fanbase. The positive outcome is the same, but the negative is much worse in one scenario.

I would agree with you if this was one of Fran's recruits. But, Larson signed to play for Lick @ Iowa.
I don't see this as a failure to recruit as much as I see it as a good opportunity for Fran to try and bring in one of his players, someone he wants specifically for his system.
From what I've seen lick and fran's systems are night and day different.
Maybe Larson likes set offenses 15 passes to take a specific shot, and thats the style he really wants to play.... i cant understand why he'd want to play like that. but maybe thats his thing.

 

[FreddyBrown]

I'm not saying that I agree with what I wrote personally, but you don't think that there is a danger in that being the perception and shortening the honeymoon?

I'm saying two things:

1. I don't agree with what you wrote.

2. Go back on the meds and try to get control over your "poster personality."

 

[racerhawk]

I don't think that this will reflect poorly on our new coach.

 

[vbeachawk]

For me, its all about Fran's assistants (who they are and their abilities to both recruit and coach) and who they can bring in to replace anyone that leaves or decommits. Whether specifically Larson signs with Iowa or not I could care less, but I will evaluate who he hires and signs to fill out the squad for next season. Then we will see where things go from there in future recruiting classes.

 

[tm3308]

I see what you're saying but i dont think anyone really expects Larson to re-sign with Iowa. A recruit isnt going to ask for his release only to sign with that same school again. Has this ever happened?

If Larson doesnt re-sign I wont consider it a failure by Fran. Larson and all of the recruits signed onto play for Lick and his staff, some losses are to be expected

He wants to check out his other options again now that we've had a coaching change. As long as his name is on the dotted line of a LOI, he can't talk to any other schools. So for him to look around to see what else is there for him, he has to get his release. I'm not sure he'll sign up with us again, but I'm just saying that if he wants to look around, he has to get his release.

 

[okobojihawk]

Fran has already made one big mistake which was attempting to soften the blow of Larson asking out, by stating that he still had a lot of interest in coming to Iowa.

If he doesn't re-commit, that will now fall directly on McCaffery as a recruiting failure. If Fran had kept his mouth shut about it and managed to get Larson back in the fold, he would have ben a magic man.

A simple piece of strategy can make a big difference on how you are perceived by the fanbase. The positive outcome is the same, but the negative is much worse in one scenario.

Headline written to seek attention.
Just a bunch of negativity!

 

[seepig]

Fran has already made one big mistake which was attempting to soften the blow of Larson asking out, by stating that he still had a lot of interest in coming to Iowa.

If he doesn't re-commit, that will now fall directly on McCaffery as a recruiting failure. If Fran had kept his mouth shut about it and managed to get Larson back in the fold, he would have ben a magic man.

A simple piece of strategy can make a big difference on how you are perceived by the fanbase. The positive outcome is the same, but the negative is much worse in one scenario.

You're as clueless as the REAL Bruce Springsteen. McCaffrey's inherited a bag of CRAP and you're already blaming him for recruiting Larson. You're an idiot dude.

 

[Sideshow214e]

Maybe Fran had better figure out how his Assistants are going to be before he starts trying to win over these guys he didnt recruit... Maybe we could keep some of the recruiting class if we had assistants guys could fall in love with..

my biggest fear is iowa will have to fill open schollies with juco guys and i really dont see the point in trying to build a program with guys that will only contribute for 2 years.

 

[BSpringsteen]

You're as clueless as the REAL Bruce Springsteen. McCaffrey's inherited a bag of CRAP and you're already blaming him for recruiting Larson. You're an idiot dude.

Lighten up Francis...

I am not blaming FM for Larson and I am not going to blame him if Larson goes elsewhere.

I am simply stating that to make a statement that suggests that we have a very realistic chance of re-recruiting Larson will make it appear to be a FM failure when he goes elsewhere.

All I am saying is that he should have just kept his mouth shut.

I'm sorry that it blew over your head.

 

[jo12208]

So if you don't want guys that will only contribute for two years, you would not want any top players that will only be in college for one or two years. In other words you don't want to get top players like NC, Kentucky, Kansas, etc?

 

[tm3308]

Maybe Fran had better figure out how his Assistants are going to be before he starts trying to win over these guys he didnt recruit... Maybe we could keep some of the recruiting class if we had assistants guys could fall in love with..

my biggest fear is iowa will have to fill open schollies with juco guys and i really dont see the point in trying to build a program with guys that will only contribute for 2 years.

I said this in another thread. JUCO guys won't win you championships. But they can give you the necessary shot in the arm to make you respectable enough to start improving your high school recruiting. They're a band-aid. I don't think anyone is expecting us to build the program around JUCO's. But they can be a very useful tool in getting things moving in the right direction again.