Maddening

SpecialKHawk

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I wish I could sum up how absurdly maddening this program is. I find it so upsetting that the head coach is always 'jotting down in-game' notes on a piece of paper yet this program continues to make the same mistakes over and over again. Why bother?

# 1 We are just too 'soft' as a program. You can tell this program has little or no contact in practices. I'm not saying every practice has to be a knock-down drag out but we need to find out who is tough enough to play on game day and who wilts under pressure.

Offensively -> What are we honestly trying to do?
-We are soft in the trenches and play an under-sized offensive line but yet want to run the football?
Like most games our lineman took turns getting blown up and there was little effort to generate a push after engagement (it looks too often like our offensive play resembles a practice walk-through). How many down field blocks do our receivers make? We certainly cannot spring any runs that begin to reach the second level. With Coker speed might be an issue but not with Canzeri or Bullock.

- We do so much of everything formation wise I am not sure we really have an identity or any continuity Shotgun, under center, I formation, single back, 5 wide, 3 wide, double tight-ends. How about a few more plays off of a standard of formations instead of a lot more formations with fewer plays? Often the formations make little sense given the down and the distance; Shotgun on first down, under center on third and long.

- When a play is blown up we tend to come back to it but a play that works we go away from.
Great example was the short yardage zone play we ran on the first 4th and 1 to the right side that was blown up. We ran the same play two more times in short yardage and it was blown up two more times. The bootleg waggle where Vandy hit our CJ (TE) for a nice gain was executed once. The beautiful screen pass we ran in the 4th was the only time we ran it... granted not many possessions left in the game but come back to it instead of just handing the ball off up the middle in the two minute offense.

- After a nice drive featuring a nice emphasis on running the ball and we come out and throw the ball 3 times only to punt? Did we just not move the ball on the previous possession with the run and mixing a little pass?

- Dropped passes galore ---- how many seasons does this happen.

The final analysis is this program is wilting because the offense can never-ever be counted on to lead this program. Defense was not stellar this season but we ended up getting more mileage out it than I ever thought we would.
 
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I agree....seems like KOK looses his continuity of thought and basic memory functions during games..It has been a persistent problem..and I do not have the faith that it will change...Kirk is married to his staff for better or worse and in my opinion feels too indebted to the KOK to criticize as the two go back a long ways and I think KOK was Kirk's boss at one time.
 
Everything the first poster said. I got a kick out of KF jotting down the notes after a Senior All-Ten Lineman got flagged for holding. What exactly is he going to say about it? Biggest problems with this staff is clock mgmt. They simply do not know how to go about scoring. This looked smart when Iowa had a loaded defense, but the offense is so freaking predictable. It isn't obvious to KF that you actually need to outscore your opponents to win games. It is like winning the game isn't the goal. Minimizing points is! He is getting old hat.
One other thing... you have to recognize players goals and reward them for years of playing within the system such as McNutt. He should have been getting more play calls yesterday such as screens or short passes. Very frustratring to not see him get the passes needed to break records. KF is the type of coach who puts RB on the bench with 99 yards or tells the QB to take a knee down by 7 with a minute before halftime near midfield. Both poor choices.
 
^Yep. It's like these guys believe that the O's primary mission is to hold on to the ball as long as possible to keep it out of the other team's hands. Scoring is the secondary purpose.
 
Everything the first poster said. I got a kick out of KF jotting down the notes after a Senior All-Ten Lineman got flagged for holding. What exactly is he going to say about it? Biggest problems with this staff is clock mgmt. They simply do not know how to go about scoring. This looked smart when Iowa had a loaded defense, but the offense is so freaking predictable. It isn't obvious to KF that you actually need to outscore your opponents to win games. It is like winning the game isn't the goal. Minimizing points is! He is getting old hat.
One other thing... you have to recognize players goals and reward them for years of playing within the system such as McNutt. He should have been getting more play calls yesterday such as screens or short passes. Very frustratring to not see him get the passes needed to break records. KF is the type of coach who puts RB on the bench with 99 yards or tells the QB to take a knee down by 7 with a minute before halftime near midfield. Both poor choices.

Truth hurts......
It is sickening to watch us control the clock when we're playing from behind. And various other clock-related offenses.
 
Sadly I agree with nearly everything posted in this thread. Its predictable and stale. The zone stretch plays on short yardage or in the redzone repeatedly with a 170 lb RB is just awful. Not to mention they continually run it to the short side of the field...WTF?? Space makes that play work, you limit the space going to the short side especially in the redzone.
Its unbelievably frustrating because the players are there. Its like a previous poster sad, its almost like they call plays not to score, but to keep the ball away from the opponent. Not throwing to McNutt inside the 20 at all in the 1st quarter drive was stupid too. Instead try and pound the smallest guy on the field into the endzone....seems logical.
 
The OP summed it up, this offense is letting down this program and the fans. Some of the firepower and players we have and sometimes we only run 40 to 50 plays a game. KOK does not seem to have a feel for what might work.

KOK ran the sweep the OP talked about more like 6 times last night and the outcome stunk every time. I think most posters on this site knew we couldnt run wide on OU.

Strange offensive play calling. Yes the propensity to have a good running drive and then stink it up on the next drive with 3 weird pass calls, poor execution , and a 3 and out.

The coaching staff has to find a way to have the passing game work from the start of the game and not go 1 for 11.
 
I made some friends laugh last night when I predicted/called two plays in a row. I think they thought it was neat??? I'm like, not hard to do.......
 
Sadly I agree with nearly everything posted in this thread. Its predictable and stale. The zone stretch plays on short yardage or in the redzone repeatedly with a 170 lb RB is just awful. Not to mention they continually run it to the short side of the field...WTF?? Space makes that play work, you limit the space going to the short side especially in the redzone.
Its unbelievably frustrating because the players are there. Its like a previous poster sad, its almost like they call plays not to score, but to keep the ball away from the opponent. Not throwing to McNutt inside the 20 at all in the 1st quarter drive was stupid too. Instead try and pound the smallest guy on the field into the endzone....seems logical.

Baffling........... To say the VERY least...............
 
SpecialK all great points. It is interesting whatever it is he's writing. I mean do we not review game film to determine that Gettis did indeed hold? I also agree that Kenneth is nothing more than scatterbrained. We run that beautiful screen with a fast tailback in the flats and it never used again. Can't wait for Kirk's last presser. " we'll take a deep look at the entire program here in the next couple weeks and see if we can't get the ship headed back in the right direction." In other words nothings gonna change and it only gets more maddening..
 
It's even worse watching it in person compared to on tv. You get to see the whole field and the open receivers, and witness JV instead throw to a double covered receiver.
And like y'all mentioned earlier the predictability..... My brother and I called nearly every play last night, we were just off on yardage sometimes. It sucks.
 
It's even worse watching it in person compared to on tv. You get to see the whole field and the open receivers, and witness JV instead throw to a double covered receiver.
And like y'all mentioned earlier the predictability..... My brother and I called nearly every play last night, we were just off on yardage sometimes. It sucks.

Whar better looking avatar???
 
A couple of years ago I was working with a girl who's brother was on the team and she passed on this info about KOK. It was along the lines that he had anxiety issues and would freeze up sometimes and would have a couple people around him to call plays if he froze completely. Not exactly a world killer here.
 
A couple of years ago I was working with a girl who's brother was on the team and she passed on this info about KOK. It was along the lines that he had anxiety issues and would freeze up sometimes and would have a couple people around him to call plays if he froze completely. Not exactly a world killer here.

C'mon, give us some credit here...

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When i opened this thread i thought that it was about a new form of tebowing but instead with john madden. I wish that it would have been :)
 

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