Let the lawsuits begin!

[ColumbusHawk]

If, as expected, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas & Texas Tech announce that they are leaving for the Pac 12, don't be surprised if the Big 12 & the remaining members file numerous lawsuits.

I would not be shocked if the Big 12, Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State & Missouri all file lawsuits against the Pac 12, the SEC and their members for tortious interference of a business relationship. In conjunction with these actions, breach of contract complaints would be filed against the five schools proposing to leave the conference.

I hope this doesn't happen, but it is definitely in the real of probability. Maybe the schools leaving can appease the conference by agreeing not to take any TV revenue this year.

Supposedly, Texas A&M owes the Big 12 $28 million for leaving. Maybe if the other four schools agree to each pay $28 million to the conference, the matter will be resolved peaceably & without legal action.

Like I said earlier, I hope this doesn't happen. Once this matter gets into the courts who knows what could happen. The Big Ten could be dragged kicking & screaming into this whole mess. About the only thing that would be guaranteed is that the lawyers would win.

 

[goods10]

If, as expected, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas & Texas Tech announce that they are leaving for the Pac 12, don't be surprised if the Big 12 & the remaining members file numerous lawsuits.

I would not be shocked if the Big 12, Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State & Missouri all file lawsuits against the Pac 12, the SEC and their members for tortious interference of a business relationship. In conjunction with these actions, breach of contract complaints would be filed against the five schools proposing to leave the conference.

I hope this doesn't happen, but it is definitely in the real of probability. Maybe the schools leaving can appease the conference by agreeing not to take any TV revenue this year.

Supposedly, Texas A&M owes the Big 12 $28 million for leaving. Maybe if the other four schools agree to each pay $28 million to the conference, the matter will be resolved peaceably & without legal action.

Like I said earlier, I hope this doesn't happen. Once this matter gets into the courts who knows what could happen. The Big Ten could be dragged kicking & screaming into this whole mess. About the only thing that would be guaranteed is that the lawyers would win.

How do you figure this? What does the Big Ten have to do with the lawsuits?

 

[CyBroncos]

What power do you think those schools have? Texas runs the conference. They'll do whatever they want. If they decide to go to the Pac 12 in that package deal, they'll say bye bye guys, best of luck and won't pay a dime...and neither will the schools going with them

 

[seepig]

Say bye bye to the NON-EXISTENT 12 boys and girls! It's been nice knowing you.

Get hooked HORNS! For all you Longhorn fans....go suck eggs baby!

 

[NewMexHawk]

It won't matter one iota if the little have not schools sue. A lawsuit won't stop those other schools from going wherever they want. The only people that would feel good is Pollard and the other have not school ADs and a few fans.

It still won't change the fact that there would be no Big 12 and that the have nots will have to beg for a home in another conference.

Therein lies the real problem. When conferences want other schools to join, they want programs that are nationally known and programs that can bring money into the conference.

With a school like isu, they have no history and are and have been a national joke in college football. Because they get the money they do now from the Big 12 does not mean they will continue to command that kind of money simply because they bring a small unknown fanbase and no population centers for the conference.

If the clowns go to a conference, their money will plummet. For instance, does anyone really think that the Big East would grab up the rest of the conference leftovers. Why would they? The leftovers would bring very few tv sets and the teams leftover would command little to no national attention in the new conference. Do ya think the east coast is just waiting to grab the clowns, Kansas, KSU, and or Missouri? Do ya think college football fans on the east coast are anticipating matchups like UConn vs the clowns, or a clown/Kansas game.

What would these schools bring to the Big East other than four hungry mouths to feed and a situation where those four are taking money away from the other Big East teams. Every one of the Big 12 leftovers are recipients of the conference pie; they are not adding value to the conference like NE did with the Big 10. If the Big East signs the large contract they are anticipating, do you think the present Big East teams will want to share their money with four teams who bring little to nothing to the conference. Do yo think the Big East just wants to be nice and give the leftovers a home and share their money. The conferences are ALL about money, each school wants as much as they can possibly make. Splitting the money with four new members who are recipients and nothing more makes absolutely no financial sense for the other members of the Big East.

About the only conferences that would take the Big 12 leftovers are the MWC, CUSA, or the MAC and none of those conferences are going to pay much more than what they already do to members. Those conferences are not going to get huge TV contracts JUST BECAUSE the clowns, Kansas, KSU, and Missouri join. Again, these four programs would be recipients in those conferences. What value would these four leftovers even bring to the MWC, CUSA, or the MAC...other than being able to say "we were BCS teams. We didn't win anything or even compete for the Big 12 title, but we were BCS teams." THAT is all a school like isu can claim...they have nothing else to offer any other conference except a big mouth to feed. Every one of those schools will see their present budget intake of money get halved or even be a third of what it is now.

That means the clowns would not be able to support their men's and women's teams. Would the State of Iowa finance the clown's programs for $10 million or more a year when they don't for UNI? The clowns would have to begin dropping programs. Their football team would not be able to support the other teams. Their recruiting would drop off; their recruiting budget would be dramatically cut, and many players that now come to isu from Florida and Texas would no longer come to play in the MWC, CUSA, or the MAC. Their recruiting area would be minimal and they would primarily compete with UNI and other MAC teams for players.

If the Big 12 goes down, the clowns are in big big trouble and that is a GOOD thing. Iowa will finally be the only BCS team in the state, which is the way it should be, and all will be right in college football.

 

[ColumbusHawk]

How do you figure this? What does the Big Ten have to do with the lawsuits?

Nebraska!

 

[clonedude]

It won't matter one iota if the little have not schools sue. A lawsuit won't stop those other schools from going wherever they want. The only people that would feel good is Pollard and the other have not school ADs and a few fans.

It still won't change the fact that there would be no Big 12 and that the have nots will have to beg for a home in another conference.

Therein lies the real problem. When conferences want other schools to join, they want programs that are nationally known and programs that can bring money into the conference.

With a school like isu, they have no history and are and have been a national joke in college football. Because they get the money they do now from the Big 12 does not mean they will continue to command that kind of money simply because they bring a small unknown fanbase and no population centers for the conference.

If the clowns go to a conference, their money will plummet. For instance, does anyone really think that the Big East would grab up the rest of the conference leftovers. Why would they? The leftovers would bring very few tv sets and the teams leftover would command little to no national attention in the new conference. Do ya think the east coast is just waiting to grab the clowns, Kansas, KSU, and or Missouri? Do ya think college football fans on the east coast are anticipating matchups like UConn vs the clowns, or a clown/Kansas game.

What would these schools bring to the Big East other than four hungry mouths to feed and a situation where those four are taking money away from the other Big East teams. Every one of the Big 12 leftovers are recipients of the conference pie; they are not adding value to the conference like NE did with the Big 10. If the Big East signs the large contract they are anticipating, do you think the present Big East teams will want to share their money with four teams who bring little to nothing to the conference. Do yo think the Big East just wants to be nice and give the leftovers a home and share their money. The conferences are ALL about money, each school wants as much as they can possibly make. Splitting the money with four new members who are recipients and nothing more makes absolutely no financial sense for the other members of the Big East.

About the only conferences that would take the Big 12 leftovers are the MWC, CUSA, or the MAC and none of those conferences are going to pay much more than what they already do to members. Those conferences are not going to get huge TV contracts JUST BECAUSE the clowns, Kansas, KSU, and Missouri join. Again, these four programs would be recipients in those conferences. What value would these four leftovers even bring to the MWC, CUSA, or the MAC...other than being able to say "we were BCS teams. We didn't win anything or even compete for the Big 12 title, but we were BCS teams." THAT is all a school like isu can claim...they have nothing else to offer any other conference except a big mouth to feed. Every one of those schools will see their present budget intake of money get halved or even be a third of what it is now.

That means the clowns would not be able to support their men's and women's teams. Would the State of Iowa finance the clown's programs for $10 million or more a year when they don't for UNI? The clowns would have to begin dropping programs. Their football team would not be able to support the other teams. Their recruiting would drop off; their recruiting budget would be dramatically cut, and many players that now come to isu from Florida and Texas would no longer come to play in the MWC, CUSA, or the MAC. Their recruiting area would be minimal and they would primarily compete with UNI and other MAC teams for players.

If the Big 12 goes down, the clowns are in big big trouble and that is a GOOD thing. Iowa will finally be the only BCS team in the state, which is the way it should be, and all will be right in college football.

Thanks for your sympathy. Obviously you don't care about the state of Iowa, huh? Any serious person you talk to about ISU falling from the BCS level says it would severely hurt the state of Iowa on a financial level.

But go ahead and keep being completely ignorant if you want to. Keep worshipping Hawkeye football over everything else in life. It must be a sad existence for you.

 

[JHHawk]

New Mex: I do not like ISU either,but I am not sure it would be that big of a difference to Iowa if ISU dies on the vine. And it seems vindictive to wish them away. But otherwise,you have some valid points. KU bb is the lone big plum left among those also-rans. They could go to C-USA and challenge Memphis,and enhance that league,but otherwise,not so much.

 

[silvanthalas]

Any serious person you talk to about ISU falling from the BCS level says it would severely hurt the state of Iowa on a financial level.

And?

Guess what? The state of Iowa has no say in this. A major conference isn't going to take ISU just because a low-population fly-over state begs for them to be taken.

This is the reality of the situation. And if talking about reality means we all hate the state of Iowa, so be it. It's still reality.

 

[FERNANDO]

If, as expected, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas & Texas Tech announce that they are leaving for the Pac 12, don't be surprised if the Big 12 & the remaining members file numerous lawsuits.

The Big12 conference would no longer exist if this happens.

I would not be shocked if the Big 12, Baylor, Iowa State, Kansas, Kansas State & Missouri all file lawsuits against the Pac 12, the SEC and their members for tortious interference of a business relationship. In conjunction with these actions, breach of contract complaints would be filed against the five schools proposing to leave the conference.

I doubt the SEC and Pac 12 are worried about that happening.
Was there some contractual language that said a school could not leave the conference?


Supposedly, Texas A&M owes the Big 12 $28 million for leaving. Maybe if the other four schools agree to each pay $28 million to the conference, the matter will be resolved peaceably & without legal action.

See first response.

 

[Ozhawk]

Any serious person you talk to about ISU falling from the BCS level says it would severely hurt the state of Iowa on a financial level.
.

Please explain how piddly little ISU would have any impact on the finances of this State.

Give examples on how the mighty financial juggernaut of ISU keeps us alive as a state

 

[ColumbusHawk]

If, as expected, Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas & Texas Tech announce that they are leaving for the Pac 12, don't be surprised if the Big 12 & the remaining members file numerous lawsuits.

The Big12 conference would no longer exist if this happens.

This is the biggest fallacy being perpetrated by the message boards. The Big 12 Conference is incorporated as a 501(c)3 corporation. It operates under the corporate laws of Delaware. The conference has a board of directors like any other corporation.

The Big 12 may cease to exist as an athletic conference, but it will not cease to exist as a legal entity. Unless the remaining members dissolve the corporation, the Big 12 Conference will continue to exist as a legal entity into perpetuaity.

The Big 12 conference has bylaws that govern how teams may withdraw from the conference, and any withdrawal that violates those bylaws raises the possibilities of financial penalties and other issues. The bylaws require that member schools commit to the Big 12 for five-year periods.

If a school wants to leave when a five-year period is up, it must give two years' notice. The most recently completed five-year period ended in June 2011, meaning Colorado & Nebraska had to give notice by June 2009.

Consequently, Colorado & Nebraska fulfilled their five-year committments. However, the schools failed to give proper notice.

Oklahoma, Oklahoma State, Texas, Texas A&M & Texas Tech have every right to leave the conference. Though, according to the bylaws, the schools are committed to the Big 12 until June 2016. Leaving before 2016 would be a violation of the bylaws.

The bylaws call for any school that withdraws improperly to disgorge up to 80 percent of its share of conference revenue for a two-year period, with that revenue going to the other member schools. The Big 12 planned to withhold an estimated $19.37 in revenue payments to Nebraska. The Huskers considered legal action against Big 12.

However, the parties came to terms in a negotiated settlement handled by a mediator. The Huskers & the Big 12 agreed that the conference would withold $9.25 in payments, a 48 percent hit on revenues, but less than the 80 percent set out in the bylaws.

Because Colorado was owed less, the conference was going to withhold around $15 million in payments. The settlement was $6.86 million. Remember, Iowa State isn't going to receive a dime for the Iowa game on Saturday. Fox Sports will make the payment to the Big 12 Conference. TV contracts are with conferences & not the individual schools.

Any other stupid, ignorant statements you want me to refute. I love educating the feeble-minded.