I think you have tried to put too positive of a spin on a terrible performance today by our hawks. We let a BAD team hang aroung via our lack of execution. Period. We sucked. They suck. We were lucky to escape with a win. Let's hope the team that showed up against MSU is the one we see next weekend and not the team we saw today.
Jon you're great, but......
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Hawkfromnorwalk
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**Yawn**
ShadasRevenge
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Agreed, Iowa should forfeit the game and award Indiana the win.
BSpringsteen
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Outside of the Indiana 10 yard line, we dominated them. It was poor red zone performance and nothing else, that is not something that has been an issue for this team this year, so I'm not that concerned about it.
Outside of the Indiana 10 yard line, we dominated them. It was poor red zone performance and nothing else, that is not something that has been an issue for this team this year, so I'm not that concerned about it.
tm3308
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Giving up a drive for the winning TD has happened 3 different times this year. That is something worth being concerned about.
ShadasRevenge
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Stop making it so easy and come up with a valid point.
HawkeyeMike23
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This is very much worth being concerned about as I thought we only had two losses. I see ESPN also has us at 7-2, better alert the media about the extra loss we have.
silvanthalas
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He can't as he's too busy holding a gun to your head making you respond to his posts.
tm3308
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You're right, he said we sucked today, therefore he's wrong. Indiana is God-awful, and we had no business beating them today.
tm3308
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Anybody who honestly believes we stopped Indiana today has lost their marbles in their homerism. Indiana stopped themselves, it had nothing to do with our defense on that last possesssion.
homerHAWKeye777
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I think that the OP isn't accounting for the fact that Iowa's redzone execution (or lack thereof) was a big reason why the game ended up being close. Whenever you allow ANY team to stick around in the game ... the more that they believe that they have a chance to win.
Indiana is definitely not a great team.
However, Indiana is also capable of being a pretty dangerous team. Including this game, Indiana has been INCREDIBLY close this season to being a 7-2 team. Instead, they've dropped three games that they very possible could have won.
The ability to close games is the fine line that can separate winners from losers ... and good teams from not-so-good teams.
Heck, Iowa is good enough to be dangerous. However, the Hawks themselves are irritatingly close to being undefeated at this juncture ... and the very fact that we've lose 2 close games is simply reflective of the fact that we're not as good as we originally hoped to be. Of course, this teams has also faced plenty of adversity. However, at the end of the day ... we're fortunate that this teams still seems to remember that there's plenty to play for yet.
Indiana is definitely not a great team.
However, Indiana is also capable of being a pretty dangerous team. Including this game, Indiana has been INCREDIBLY close this season to being a 7-2 team. Instead, they've dropped three games that they very possible could have won.
The ability to close games is the fine line that can separate winners from losers ... and good teams from not-so-good teams.
Heck, Iowa is good enough to be dangerous. However, the Hawks themselves are irritatingly close to being undefeated at this juncture ... and the very fact that we've lose 2 close games is simply reflective of the fact that we're not as good as we originally hoped to be. Of course, this teams has also faced plenty of adversity. However, at the end of the day ... we're fortunate that this teams still seems to remember that there's plenty to play for yet.
njq3
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a win is a win. we do need to give indiana some credit, they were well prepared for us in the red zone. and indiana had nothing to lose and everything to gain. if we lost, we would be lucky to go to the alamo bowl, now there is still a chance for a better bowl. i will take all 4 of myers field goals, as long as it is still a w. we are not going to go down and score td's every possession. we all know coach will not blow a team out. yes we should have beat them by a lot more than we did, but the fact is we didn't. get over it. its still a win. and good teams find a way to win, and we are a good team.
ShadasRevenge
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Iowa did suck today. The offense was anemic, and the defense let Indiana move the ball down the field late in the game. Never mind that Indiana started their last possession on their own 40 due to bad kick coverage.
But...when it came to crunch time, Iowa came through. Rick made the throws he hadn't made previously, and the receivers came through as well.
Iowa still won the game. It still counts in the standings, and they don't have to give it back because it wasn't sexy enough for some people.
tm3308
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Agreed. I certainly feel there is a lot to play for still. I just don't feel that a win actually eliminates all weaknesses, like some here apparently do. It only masks them. If Belcher catches that ball, I'm worried about the same thing: how did he get THAT open?
It's kind of like the line from Friday Night Lights: Ain't much difference between winning and losing, except for how the outside world treats you.
The fact that Belcher didn't execute and catch the ball doesn't make the fact that he was THAT open any less concerning, especially given the drives we gave up to Arizona and Wisconsin. It appears to be becoming a trend, and that is very concerning to me.
tm3308
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I'm not saying that we give it back. But this is the third time we've given up a drive like that this year. That's concerning to me GOING FORWARD. I don't see Ebert or Dunsmore (did you see the catch he made today?) dropping those 3 passes in the final 4 plays.
ShadasRevenge
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That three play touchdown drive says differently.
ShadasRevenge
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Fair enough, but I don't see NW trying many 25 yard pass plays, either. It isn't their game. I did see the catch that Dunsmore made, it was quite impressive. I also saw NW give up touchdowns on 5 straight possessions to a QB who was 3rd on the depth chart in August.
