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1hawkeye1

1hawkeye1

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We were all soooo thirsty and the Kool Aid looked soooo good. The national media was serving it up in a frosty cup and putting a Final Four umbrella in it! Awesome!

Unfortunately, this Kool Aid is the same old unsweetened kind we get as Iowa fans time after time. Jay Bilas and the whole country showed up for some, too. They took a sip and got that disgusted look on their faces. They set their cups down and went home.

Now we are left sitting slumped over with our B1G Champion ties undone, looking around in disbelief. "Free throws again......a so-called Final Four team that can't make FT's...."

What are we gonna do with all this cake?
 
Iowa will thump Illinois then win 2 home games next week on their way to a 12-6 conference record and likely tie for third place with Wisconsin. Then on to the Big Fight in Indy, then to The Dance with a #5 seed.
 
I admit that I got reeled in a bit by the Final Four talk, but I should have known better.

Sure, you have teams like VCU & Butler making the Final Four, so I guess anything can happen in a tournament. But realistically, I'm putting this Final Four garbage out of my mind. I think maybe Sweet 16 is more feasible, barring us being in a region that gets decimated by upsets, etc. and clears the way for us.

I wanted to believe, but last night made me realize that this team isn't what Seth Greenberg has been saying. Gotta win against MSU on your home court, when they are not anywhere close to 100%. The OSU game.. Still a good win, but not what everyone thought it was at the time when OSU was #3 (very overrated).

I am not down on this team - make no mistake. I still think they are good. But it's time for me to come back to reality.
 
glidinghawk said:
Iowa will thump Illinois then win 2 home games next week on their way to a 12-6 conference record and likely tie for third place with Wisconsin. Then on to the Big Fight in Indy, then to The Dance with a #5 seed.
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..........and then? Lose because of FT's?
 
glidinghawk said:
Iowa will thump Illinois then win 2 home games next week on their way to a 12-6 conference record and likely tie for third place with Wisconsin. Then on to the Big Fight in Indy, then to The Dance with a #5 seed.
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Didn't I hear somewhere that Iowa hasn't won at Champaign in like 20 some years? Even if Illannoy is down I don't think we can expect this team, which has a knack for missing free throws and key players disappearing for long stretches, to win any game.
 
glidinghawk said:
Iowa will thump Illinois then win 2 home games next week on their way to a 12-6 conference record and likely tie for third place with Wisconsin. Then on to the Big Fight in Indy, then to The Dance with a #5 seed.
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Yikes, a #5 seed?!?! That's the prime 1st round upset seed. Unless of course you're coached by a fraud, then it's a #3. :)
 
xXxHerkyxXx said:
Didn't I hear somewhere that Iowa hasn't won at Champaign in like 20 some years? Even if Illannoy is down I don't think we can expect this team, which has a knack for missing free throws and key players disappearing for long stretches, to win any game.
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Last time Iowa won in Champaign was 1999, Mr. Davis's last year. So no, I am not going to just assume Iowa is going to waltz into that building and dominate the game. I saw a lot of folks saying Iowa would win by 15-20 last night, too.

Iowa *should* win this game, though. What worries me most is if Iowa comes out deflated after last night's loss.
 
1hawkeye1 said:
..........and then? Lose because of FT's?
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I don't know what the average FT shooting pct is in the NCAA, but with Iowa at 72.3%, I'd guess that is right around the average, maybe slightly better, maybe slightly worse. So Iowa's FT shooting is not terrible.

Having said that, there is no reason why Gesell and Marbe should not be making 75 percent of their FTs and sticking the first of one and one's.
 
glidinghawk said:
I don't know what the average FT shooting pct is in the NCAA, but with Iowa at 72.3%, I'd guess that is right around the average, maybe slightly better, maybe slightly worse. So Iowa's FT shooting is not terrible.

Having said that, there is no reason why Gesell and Marbe should not be making 75 percent of their FTs and sticking the first of one and one's.
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A great majority of our wins are blowouts....easy to convert free throws in that scenario. But in every one of our losses, save Michigan, we've been borderline bad in late game free throw conversions. It absolutely cost us the Villanova, ISU and MSU wins. Sometimes overall stats don't tell the "micro" story.
 
It is amazing that even after a gut punch loss like last night, we still project ahead thinking about all the wins that we are going to have. There is no team on the schedule that can't beat us.
 
I actually expect Iowa to play very well in the NCAA tourney. The new rules have gone by the wayside in B1G play but that wont be the case come tourney time.
 
HawkIPA said:
I actually expect Iowa to play very well in the NCAA tourney. The new rules have gone by the wayside in B1G play but that wont be the case come tourney time.
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The new rules didn't go by the wayside last night.....very closely called game and a game where we shot 20 more free throws than MSU and lost.

Our NCAA tourney success will be dictated by how well we can shoot and whether we can figure out how to do the "little things" that win you ball games.
 
SpiderRico said:
The new rules didn't go by the wayside last night.....very closely called game and a game where we shot 20 more free throws than MSU and lost.

Our NCAA tourney success will be dictated by how well we can shoot and whether we can figure out how to do the "little things" that win you ball games.
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It shows how big of an idiot you are when you bring up free throw differential without mentioning how many 3 pointers MSU shot than Iowa last night.
 
HawkIPA said:
It shows how big of an idiot you are when you bring up free throw differential without mentioning how many 3 pointers MSU shot than Iowa last night.
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What's with the name-calling? I simply pointed out that you were wrong when you claimed the new rules have gone by the wayside and they won't in the NCAA....and that is grounds for calling me an idiot? Pretty sure there's board rules against that sort of thing....
 
SpiderRico said:
What's with the name-calling? I simply pointed out that you were wrong when you claimed the new rules have gone by the wayside and they won't in the NCAA....and that is grounds for calling me an idiot? Pretty sure there's board rules against that sort of thing....
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For a majority of B1G games this year the new rules have gone by the wayside. Several B1G coaches have said the game is being called differently in conference play than it was being called in the OOC.
 
HawkIPA said:
For a majority of B1G games this year the new rules have gone by the wayside. Several B1G coaches have said the game is being called differently in conference play than it was being called in the OOC.
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I don't really buy this. Arm bars on an offensive player moving toward the basket aren't being allowed at all, for one.
 
glidinghawk said:
I expect them to come out like they did against Northestern after the tough loss in Ann Arbor.
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So, Gabe and Gesell keep the Illini at bay until (IF) Dev and White show up? I see that working in Evanston but not in Champaign, with a prime-time, Saturday night full house going orange crushy.

If Hawks come out as they have the last 3 games and Illannoy is within 5-8 at half, I'll call the L right now. Dev and AW need to assert themselves immediately and Hawks need to start fast and get up by double digits early to win there. Anything less and it's another L to a lesser team.
 
SpiderRico said:
The new rules didn't go by the wayside last night.....very closely called game and a game where we shot 20 more free throws than MSU and lost.

Our NCAA tourney success will be dictated by how well we can shoot and whether we can figure out how to do the "little things" that win you ball games.
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If you replay the amount of free throws we got in that game 10 more times, Iowa wins that game 10 times. If they call the game like last night in the tournament, we'll make a run.
 
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