Is Nate Stanley a young Kirk?

[revkev73]

How similar is the coach and the QB?

Meticulous?

Talented?

Hard working?

Successful?

Intelligent?

Playing safe and cautious?

Likable?

Shy and socially awkward at times?

Reticent?

Trending towards panic, at times, under the bright lights in the big moments and games?

Default settings often override the ability to be creative?

Uncomfortable in a vocal leadership role because of their social shyness? Not born leaders by personality?

An underlying fear of failure?

Secretive?

Nice people who are above average but at times struggle to risk what it takes to be great?

Is being similar (if true) in personality and style more helpful or less helpful to achieve success and the next level?

Comments

 

[pythagoras]

You need a hobby. For the record, shitposting is not a hobby.

 

[revkev73]

You need a hobby. For the record, shitposting is not a hobby.

What is your input, other than your childish retort?

 

[Northside Hawk]

I don't know if Kirk struggled to take risks to be great. His love of Pittsburgh and the east coast is well documented. When he was hired by Hayden in 1981 he was putting a lot on the line with abandoning his roots and taking on a division one job at 26.

I have never known him to be shy and socially awkward. Private perhaps, but then again many big time coaches are (It was one of the things that drove Lute right out of town). He has represented himself well in many interviews with his dry sense of humor frequently coming through.

The best example of a quarterback being an extension of the coach may have been Vince Lombardi and Bart Starr, but there have been many others.

 

[revkev73]

I don't know if Kirk struggled to take risks to be great. His love of Pittsburgh and the east coast is well documented. When he was hired by Hayden in 1981 he was putting a lot on the line with abandoning his roots and taking on a division one job at 26.

I have never known him to be shy and socially awkward. Private perhaps, but then again many big time coaches are (It was one of the things that drove Lute right out of town). He has represented himself well in many interviews with his dry sense of humor frequently coming through.

The best example of a quarterback being an extension of the coach may have been Vince Lombardi and Bart Starr, but there have been many others.

Kirk has stated and did so this year that the best part of the Big Ten media day is when he sees the place in his tail lights. Socially awkward might be overstating it but "crowd" isn't what he enjoys, it seems.

To me, they seem very similar, which is something that Kirk relishes, for better or worse.

On the negative side, the "excitement" and "creativity" that often comes with a talented and confident QB gets muted the more games the QB plays under Kirk. This toning down of creativity and individual talent makes for more predictability but perhaps limits the talents and potential top tier accomplishments the QB can bring.

 

[pythagoras]

What is your input, other than your childish retort?

You asked for Comments. My input was quite clear.

 

[Northside Hawk]

Kirk has stated and did so this year that the best part of the Big Ten media day is when he sees the place in his tail lights. Socially awkward might be overstating it but "crowd" isn't what he enjoys, it seems.

To me, they seem very similar, which is something that Kirk relishes, for better or worse.

On the negative side, the "excitement" and "creativity" that often comes with a talented and confident QB gets muted the more games the QB plays under Kirk. This toning down of creativity and individual talent makes for more predictability but perhaps limits the talents and potential top tier accomplishments the QB can bring.

Good points, but I can guarantee if you polled the coaches you would get fourteen identical responses to seeing that Chicago luncheon in their tail lights. These guys are currently gearing up for more important things. But it's a necessary evil for the job.

 

[revkev73]

You asked for Comments. My input was quite clear.

It was clear I was inviting comments about the similarities between coach and QB. You decided to weaponize the thread with your childish comments. Well done!