Iowa v UNI Two Deep

I remember a few years back, Duke had a basketball game that they started off playing awful. After a few minutes, Krzyzewski benched all five starters at the same time, sending them a message. They got the message, stormed back, and ended up winning the game.

I wonder if Ferentz has considered a radical lineup change to send a message? (Stop laughing at "Ferentz" and "radical" being in the same sentence.)
 
I would love if he would do that. Even a quick rotation during the game for a series or a few plays, of a few positions, would be fantastic! But KF only strengthens his resolve to play the same starters all game long, with each passing moment.
 
I hope Nico keeps working hard to take that starting spot because feels like he's one that would get frustrated enough with PT to look at transferring for PT elsewhere.
 
I hope Nico keeps working hard to take that starting spot because feels like he's one that would get frustrated enough with PT to look at transferring for PT elsewhere.

Donatell is a senior so it's Nico's spot next year unless an even younger underclassmen is a stud and takes it from him. Transferring would be stupid because it's his to take and he wouldn't have to sit a year.
 
Donatell is a senior so it's Nico's spot next year unless an even younger underclassmen is a stud and takes it from him. Transferring would be stupid because it's his to take and he wouldn't have to sit a year.

I know but look at the RB position. Doesn't matter if PT is there, they all transfer.
 
Nico Law should be starting already. Considering we heard all offseason how even Nico and he were, there's zero upside to starting Tom Donatell. Nico is the guy who has a chance to be a very strong player. If you don't give him proper reps this season, you're in the exact same situation next year. The only way for him to get that experience and begin to take the next step is to play and experience in-game situations.
 
Nico Law should be starting already. Considering we heard all offseason how even Nico and he were, there's zero upside to starting Tom Donatell. Nico is the guy who has a chance to be a very strong player. If you don't give him proper reps this season, you're in the exact same situation next year. The only way for him to get that experience and begin to take the next step is to play and experience in-game situations.

This.....
 
I remember a few years back, Duke had a basketball game that they started off playing awful. After a few minutes, Krzyzewski benched all five starters at the same time, sending them a message. They got the message, stormed back, and ended up winning the game.

I wonder if Ferentz has considered a radical lineup change to send a message? (Stop laughing at "Ferentz" and "radical" being in the same sentence.)

If it ain't broke don't fix it. It's football, Iowa is due to bounce back with at least 10+ points on Saturday, mark my word.
 
Nico Law should be starting already. Considering we heard all offseason how even Nico and he were, there's zero upside to starting Tom Donatell. Nico is the guy who has a chance to be a very strong player. If you don't give him proper reps this season, you're in the exact same situation next year. The only way for him to get that experience and begin to take the next step is to play and experience in-game situations.

Loyalty > talent = Ferentz
 
Loyalty > talent = Ferentz

This. If anyone is thinking differently, they should go back and look at the past several years under Ferentz. It doesn't matter if talent is sitting on the bench.

It is for this same reason, anyone calling for the hook on Vandenberg (even in a hypothetical loss to UNI) will be disappointed.
 
I remember a few years back, Duke had a basketball game that they started off playing awful. After a few minutes, Krzyzewski benched all five starters at the same time, sending them a message. They got the message, stormed back, and ended up winning the game.

I wonder if Ferentz has considered a radical lineup change to send a message? (Stop laughing at "Ferentz" and "radical" being in the same sentence.)



The difference between the Duke scenario and our scenario is that Duke was capable of playing far better than they were at that moment in time. I do not know if that is the case with Iowa football right now.

I think we will get better over time, but I'm not sure how much better we would become just by sitting our starters for a portion of a game.
 
Nico Law should be starting already. Considering we heard all offseason how even Nico and he were, there's zero upside to starting Tom Donatell. Nico is the guy who has a chance to be a very strong player. If you don't give him proper reps this season, you're in the exact same situation next year. The only way for him to get that experience and begin to take the next step is to play and experience in-game situations.


I will second this. Donatell has looked shakey at best (3 passes he was burned on, had Steele thrown it worth a darn they would have been TDs) and is a senior. So, getting him the experience gives us no return on our investment in the future. Nico would be able to use it for 2 more years, with potentially HUGE benefits. Start him.
 
Originally posted by hawkjunkie
Donatell has looked shakey at best (3 passes he was burned on, had Steele thrown it worth a darn they would have been TDs) and is a senior. So, getting him the experience gives us no return on our investment in the future. Nico would be able to use it for 2 more years, with potentially HUGE benefits. Start him.

Exactly. Simply no upside to starting Donatell.

But, like others have said, the fact that Donatell is a senior (loyalty) is the reason he's starting rather than Nico Law. I have no doubt they were going to give Donatell his chance to fail before they gave Nico a real shot. Donatell simply isn't a better player.
 
Nico Law should be starting already. Considering we heard all offseason how even Nico and he were, there's zero upside to starting Tom Donatell. Nico is the guy who has a chance to be a very strong player. If you don't give him proper reps this season, you're in the exact same situation next year. The only way for him to get that experience and begin to take the next step is to play and experience in-game situations.

Do you know who Donatell's dad is?

Kirk has several sons who will enter the workforce someday and it's always nice to have someone who owes you one.
 
Glad to see the defensive line working itself out. Cooper, Alvis, and Gaglione have really separated themselves from the lest of the line in my eyes. LTP, Bigach, and Carl Davis have been extremely inconsistent. I don't think anyone saw enough of McMinn to see what he is really capable of.
 
I have concluded from the remarks in this thread that Kirk is trying to lose games by playing Donatell rather than Nico Law. That way, he can get fired. And, I am also sure that Donatell's/Law's position coach is being over ruled by Kirk. And, they should certainly bench Donatell since they have watched him everyday in practice, along with Law, and have made a really poor decision. Maybe these guys have never evaluated players before. Oh, yeah. That is it. Good grief, you guys.
 
Loyalty > talent = Ferentz


Oh please stop with this crap. There was a frickin' thread over the weekend that said the same thing. It simply isn't the case. If it was Kroul, King, Klug, Greenway, Hodge, Clark, Gallery, Reiff, Sanders, Sash, Greenwood, etc. wouldn't have been 3 and 4 years starters at their positions.

It is a lame argument that people bring up as another reason why they hate KF and it just isn't true. For whatever reason the back up at any position is better than the guy in front of them.

It really is laughable the stuff people make up as to why they hate our head coach.
 
Ferentz has ALWAYS played experience/loyalty over talent. Remember kyle mccann playing over Brad Banks??? mccann was absolutly horrible but he played because he was the one with experience even though the talent of Brad Banks may have won a game or two more that year (see 2002) Othere schools do it with great success but for some reason Kirk doesn't believe in it. Oh course then you have the issue of Kirk recruiting "city" kids with talent, but when they act like "city" kids he doesn't like it and they don't tend to play much. ie Shonn Greene tearing it up as a true freshman but then he fumbled and flexed to the crowd after a TD and then he was sent to the bench. That was until KF needed him and he was too good to hide.
 

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