Iowa over Ohio State?

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beaverdaleguy

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Odds Maker has Ohio State's only loss coming in Iowa City this year and Iowa finishing on top of the Big Ten (XII)! :)

http://www.betfirms.com/2010-ohio-state-football-predictions-062/


"Big Ten Prediction – 2nd: Heading into the season I have the Buckeyes only loss coming at Iowa this season. I believe that the Hawkeyes front four is only one of a few defensive lines in the country that could give the Buckeyes offense trouble. There is a good chance that even if the Buckeyes lose to the Hawkeyes they could still at least take home a share of the conference title, as it will be very hard for the Hawks to go undefeated in conference play."

"1. Iowa Hawkeyes - I know everyone thinks that Ohio State is the team to beat in 2010, but a lot of people are forgetting about the Hawkeyes. Iowa nearly beat the Buckeyes on their home turf in 2009 with a backup quarterback, and get the Buckeyes at home this season. The offense returns 6 starters, including starting quarterback Ricky Stanzi and three quality running backs. The offensive line lost three starters, but head coach Kirk Ferentz is one of the best offensive line coaches in the country. I believe the Hawkeyes will have the best defense in the Big 10 this season. A big reason for that is the Hawkeyes return all four starters on the defensive line, and have one of the best defensive players in the country in defensive end Adrian Clayborn. The Hawkeye’s main advantage this season is they get Ohio State, Wisconsin, and Penn State at home."
 
Same offense versus same defensive line as last year which was shredded by OSU for 220+ rushing yards.

Dunno....OSU has always had our number.
 
Not shredded- took a couple chances late in the game and OSU broke big runs. Depending on the situation teams sometimes take chances- in that case we got burned. Look at the first 3 quarters for "getting shredded"

Should be a good game although I think both teams will have at least one loss by then.
 
thawks1 said:
Not shredded- took a couple chances late in the game and OSU broke big runs. Depending on the situation teams sometimes take chances- in that case we got burned. Look at the first 3 quarters for "getting shredded"

Should be a good game although I think both teams will have at least one loss by then.
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Not true.

http://scores.espn.go.com/ncf/playbyplay?gameId=293180194&period=0

We gave up 229 yards to them on the ground on 51 attempts (4.5 ypr)(with one 49 yard run), TP was 14-17, and that entire offense is coming back.
 
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The battle kind of went back forth which is what you should expect in a battle between a great front 7 on defense and a very solid OL. The 1st quarter of the game I remember thinking that Iowa's front 7 was gonna swallow the Buckeye's offense all game. However the Buckeye's took control during the middle portion of the game converting several 3rd downs on a couple of long scoring drives. Towards the end the Hawkeyes righted the ship and the team had a chance to win. I liked our chances in overtime and felt that not being over aggressive in the final possession of regulation was the right move.
This is kind of goofy but in the end I feel the stats back up the result and don't exactly tell the story of the game. For example the Buckeyes did rush for 229 which is excellent against anybody much less a top notch defense. But that came with ups and downs as well. Saine did great in the opportunities he had rushing for over 100 yards in just over 10 carries. Even if you took away his 49 yard run, he's still averaging 5 yards a carry which is very good. That would indicate we struggled against the run. Meanwhile Herron was pretty much bottled up and couldn't get 100 yards even with getting the ball 30 times. That would indicate we has a measure of success stopping the run.
Pryor's totals were a little misleading as well. For the most part Iowa did a good job of bottling Pryor up but if you don't count Clayborn's sack to his rushing total his stats become 7-42 which isn't bad. Pryor kept drives alive and although he didn't bust a big one, he did enough to keep drives going and his athletic ability got him out of a couple situations where other QB's would have been doomed.
This is gonna sound ridiculous, but it's not unreasonable to predict Iowa's defense to come up big this time around and play all four quarters the way they played the 1st or struggle to get off the field on 3rd down the whole game the way they did in the 2nd and 3rd quarters.
 
It is hard to have hope against a team you have beaten only 3 times in a few decades. But I think we are capable of better seasons than we have every year, even last year I thought we were better than we played. We have a tendency to play "down" (or up in a few teams' cases) to our opponant's level because once we get a lead, KF is content with not driving the score up. That is good from an integrity point of view, but it makes players complacent mid-to-late in the game and have to turn it back on at times at the end of the game to pull back in the lead.
 
Well, OSU will always be a tough win on road or at home and it will always be considered an upset win the Hawkeys win just the way it is with the history of that program out East. Lets focus on EIU and go from that point because if we don't that game will not mean anything.
 
We've reached quasi-parity with every other Big-10 team in the last 30 years.

Except tOSU. They own us.

As others have said...I'll believe it when I see it.
 
WAY to early to tell anything. There are a handful of games that will be complete toss ups. Yes, winnable, but a loss wouldn't be all that surprising either. Ohio St. is one of those games.
 
beaverdaleguy said:
It is hard to have hope against a team you have beaten only 3 times in a few decades. But I think we are capable of better seasons than we have every year, even last year I thought we were better than we played. We have a tendency to play "down" (or up in a few teams' cases) to our opponant's level because once we get a lead, KF is content with not driving the score up. That is good from an integrity point of view, but it makes players complacent mid-to-late in the game and have to turn it back on at times at the end of the game to pull back in the lead.
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The Arkansas state game is a perfect example of this.
 
lol this has the makings to turn into one of those posts with one group saying "you're not a true hawkeye fan unless you root root root all the way to 12-0" versus the other group saying "we're all real hawkeye fans, just realists that there's not much room for error in going anywhere between 12-0 and 7-5".
 
PlanoHawk said:
lol this has the makings to turn into one of those posts with one group saying "you're not a true hawkeye fan unless you root root root all the way to 12-0" versus the other group saying "we're all real hawkeye fans, just realists that there's not much room for error in going anywhere between 12-0 and 7-5".
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Put me in category #2.....thus...substantiating my avatar.
 
Boy wouldn't this be great, but I'll believe it when I see it. This game could be epic if both can come in unscathed. Wow. Forget about OSU game in '06.
 
All the big games this year are about Stanzi. Our D will do its job, it always does, even in the years it looks to be down they do their job well. Stanzi has to play great and throw no picks, then we can win. We are loaded at WR and TE this year, with so many fun weapons to play with Stanzi should light it up and beat OSU.
 
No. This year it's all about the OL. Losing three starters is huge, which is why I really hope Koeppel gets the start over Ferentz at center, or at least at the other guard opposite Vandevelde. You have to go with the experience at those positions if you've got it, and he's been around the program for a long time and should be the man over someone that's not played a down of BT ball.

STanzi just needs to do what he did last year and we'll be BCS. Without that top flight OL performance, Stanzi, or any QB, could find it hard to perform up to standard. Stanzi's injury came from an OL breakdown.
 
The majority of Stanzi's picks were not the fault of O-Line break downs. He needs to play mistake free ball if we want to beat OSU and win the Big Ten. No more horrid games where we have to come back and win in the 4th with heroics. We can get away with that vs. Indians but not OSU. The O-Line will be fine, Kirk can turn fix O-line problems over lunch and make them all big ten after dinner.
 
I'm sure there'll be no more Rick-6's to the flat this year. Those were all mental, anyway. And take away all those floaters into the wind against Indy, and he really didn't throw that many picks.

I've seen plenty of poor play by Ferentz's OLs, and having experience in a zone blocking scheme can't be overemphasized.
 
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