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blkngldFRO

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Iowa needs 3 wins in the B1G tourney to make a solid in to the dance. 2 wins gets them on the bubble IMHO.

If Iowa does not make the dance and goes to the NIT do they get a 1 seed? Would fans still show up to the NIT games and pack CHA like last year?

Just want to know everyone’s thoughts on this. Felt like we needed something new to discuss, because knowing where we sit on the bubble thing will not get resolved until further into the week.
 
I think we get one win, lose a close second round game. Maybe win second round, but not three wins. We are NITting
 
Hard to see 3 wins, although the team is going down there with the mindset to win four. I haven't looked at the entire seeding, but I believe OSU would be the likely opponent in the 3rd game. They're a tough match up for the Hawks. I think the fans have enjoyed this team this year and most definitely would pack Carver in the event of a home NIT game. I'd be very disappointed if the Hawks were left out with two BTT wins though.
 
Michigan State only beat NW by 10. They appear to have peaked a few games ago. This is a good 2nd round draw IMO. I like the match up with Ohio State. These are signature type wins. If we had somehow gotten Wisconsin it would have been a quality win but not the type of win that gets anyone's attention. Beating Michigan State will get people (media, etc.) talking about Iowa and the bubble.
 
Win one its probably bubble out (yes we can cry bs but it is what it is)
Win two and its bubble in
Win three it is lock in.
 
I would take my kids to a home NIT game, like last year.

But, I'd rather show them that they're missing the game because the team improved and made the real tournament.
 
I disagree. Beat NW/MSU and play OSU close and I think Iowa is in. Also, hold MG out of NW or play him just enough to shake any rust off. Save him for Round 2.

Just my $.02 .. ..

GO HAWKS!!!
 
Iowa is already on the bubble. For example,
[h=4]ON THE BUBBLE[/h]
[h=5]Last Four In[/h]


[h=5]First Four Out[/h]


[h=5]Next Four Out[/h]





(Bracketology - NCAA College Basketball Brackets and Predictions - ESPN; see also NCAA College Basketball Bubble Watch - CBSSports.com News, Scores, Stats, Schedule and RPI Rankings; Daniel Evans’ Bubble Watch: March 11).

1 win likely won't be enough to boost the RPI to where it needs to be to get a bid, but 2 wins (with one of those wins coming against MSU with an RPI of 8) and the Hawks are in.
 
I haven't watched OSU much this year, do they have a deep rotation? One thing that could benefit Iowa if they start to make a BTT run is that we play 10 guys, that could lead to a little bit fresher legs in a semifinal or final match up (although OSU would have only played 1 game). Maybe Purdue will do us a favor and pull an upset.
 
Purdue could very well pull one. They beat the tar out of the goofs (though that isn't saying much these days).
 
HawksMN said:
Win one its probably bubble out (yes we can cry bs but it is what it is)
Win two and its bubble in
Win three it is lock in.
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This. Iowa technically already is a bubble team, currently on the outside looking in (presumably). But we're in bubble territory, which I guess I define as being in a position where Iowa can play its way into the tournament without getting an automatic bid.

A win over NW doesn't really help us much, and I think we're one of the first 4-5 teams OUT if we lose against MSU.

Beat MSU, and I think Iowa gets in, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

Three wins, and I feel fantastic about a bid.
 
bighawkeyedaddy said:
I haven't watched OSU much this year, do they have a deep rotation? One thing that could benefit Iowa if they start to make a BTT run is that we play 10 guys, that could lead to a little bit fresher legs in a semifinal or final match up (although OSU would have only played 1 game). Maybe Purdue will do us a favor and pull an upset.
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I think this scenario is having way too much stock put into it, and not just by you.

Is it really much of an advantage for a team that plays 9 or 10 guys to be playing their 3rd game in 3 days to be playing a team that plays 7 or 8 guys that will be playing their 2nd game in 2 days?

I dont see it.
 
Section136 said:
I think this scenario is having way too much stock put into it, and not just by you.

Is it really much of an advantage for a team that plays 9 or 10 guys to be playing their 3rd game in 3 days to be playing a team that plays 7 or 8 guys that will be playing their 2nd game in 2 days?

I dont see it.
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Depends on the physicality of the game, the pace of the game, and the point spread of the game. Could work either way.
 
DaHawk56 said:
Iowa is already on the bubble. For example,
ON THE BUBBLE


Last Four In




First Four Out




Next Four Out







(Bracketology - NCAA College Basketball Brackets and Predictions - ESPN; see also NCAA College Basketball Bubble Watch - CBSSports.com News, Scores, Stats, Schedule and RPI Rankings; Daniel Evans’ Bubble Watch: March 11).

1 win likely won't be enough to boost the RPI to where it needs to be to get a bid, but 2 wins (with one of those wins coming against MSU with an RPI of 8) and the Hawks are in.
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Look at Southern Miss's profile. When you're done laughing come back and ask how they are even on the bubble. I like Lunardi, but how anyone could consider Southern Miss is beyond me.
 
1977Hawkeye said:
This. Iowa technically already is a bubble team, currently on the outside looking in (presumably). But we're in bubble territory, which I guess I define as being in a position where Iowa can play its way into the tournament without getting an automatic bid.

A win over NW doesn't really help us much, and I think we're one of the first 4-5 teams OUT if we lose against MSU.

Beat MSU, and I think Iowa gets in, but I wouldn't bet the farm on it.

Three wins, and I feel fantastic about a bid.
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I say Iowa is in with 2 because of their last 10 would be 7-3 with wins over Illinois, Minnesota and MSU (3 tournament teams). Just depends on how far other bubble teams advance.
 
B.S. Iowa is on bubble, and will make it in as other conferences fall apart. Winning 1st round game would help a small amount, but not necessary. NW is like a 160 RPI, that does nothing for us. MI State is playing very bad, this should be a W for Franny. They barely beat NW.
 
IowaFan81 said:
Depends on the physicality of the game, the pace of the game, and the point spread of the game. Could work either way.
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What would point spread have to do with how tired the players are?

Please dont insinuate that Iowa players are interested in shaving points.

k thx
 
HawksMN said:
Win one its probably bubble out (yes we can cry bs but it is what it is)
Win two and its bubble in
Win three it is lock in.
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This is how I see it also. Winning 2 makes it really good chance but we will be sweating on some of the conference tourneys and if a non-lock wins to edge us out.

Win 3 and they can't keep us out. Win 1 and we stay where we are on the outside looking in.
 
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