I'm really tired...

SpiderRico

SpiderRico

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....of seeing teams all over the country putting up good offensive production this week while we continue to muddle along like some middling high school team.

And I don't want to hear anything about "developmental program"...not this year. We returned our starting QB, our top pass catching WR, our top pass catching TE, the majority of our OL, and 2 of our top 3 RBs. There's no reasonable answer as to why we're playing as bad as we are.

Duke just went into NDs house and put up 38 in a win. Wisky went to MSUs house and put up 30 in a win (with a RS frosh at QB)....and the list goes on and on. Yet we go into the "vaunted" Scarlet Knight's house and we're lucky to put up 14pts.

That's pathetic!
 
no team chemistry with the offense, just not gelling. I wonder if this team is still feeling the hangover effects from the Rose Bowl?
 
CJ really looks like he's lost or very unsure of himself. Our strength is running the ball but our coaches don't see it that way. Very very strange.
 
Agree completely, Missouri's QB had 400 yards and 5 TDs in the first half against a horrible Delaware St. on the way to a 78-0 win. We would win 31-14 and maybe have 200 yards passing. They had 3 receivers over 100 yards in the first half. Can we not out recruit a team like Missouri?
Other teams run the ball and still rack up points slinging the ball around. We have the end around that looked like the fridge was coming off the end to take the ball. Recruit some freaking athletes for a change.
 
Ferentz's obsession with conservative football. He brought in a guy out of retirement, that was ran out of Texas, to be his errand boy. He is clearly mindfu%&ing his seniors (especially QB) into his same conservative mindset. Cj goes from gunslinger playmaker to a timid little Bi&ch who eats sacks and wont make a play. It's either he doesn't want to make coach mad or the receivers are too soft to deliver the hits instead of take them out of their breaks.
 
CJ is turning into Sr year Tate/Sr year Stanzi/Sr year Vandenberg/Sr year Rudock....seeing a trend here? With the exception of Rudock, all of the above (CJ included) were gunslingers who weren't afraid of making a mistake because they understood that you take the bad with the good. After multiple years with KF, they all finished as a shell of their former selves. Add CJ to the trash heap of quality QBs that KF neutered and ruined...
 
SpiderRico said:
CJ is turning into Sr year Tate/Sr year Stanzi/Sr year Vandenberg/Sr year Rudock....seeing a trend here? With the exception of Rudock, all of the above (CJ included) were gunslingers who weren't afraid of making a mistake because they understood that you take the bad with the good. After multiple years with KF, they all finished as a shell of their former selves. Add CJ to the trash heap of quality QBs that KF neutered and ruined...
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dead on.
 
It didn't help there was about 3-4 helmet to helmet hits on him that could/should have been called. everything was high.
 
SpiderRico said:
CJ is turning into Sr year Tate/Sr year Stanzi/Sr year Vandenberg/Sr year Rudock....seeing a trend here? With the exception of Rudock, all of the above (CJ included) were gunslingers who weren't afraid of making a mistake because they understood that you take the bad with the good. After multiple years with KF, they all finished as a shell of their former selves. Add CJ to the trash heap of quality QBs that KF neutered and ruined...
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I really hope CJ turns into SR year Stanzi. 3,000 passing yards with 25 TDs with only 6 INTs sounds just fine

And just for clarification, Wisconsin had 317 yards total offense total and the really scored 16 points. Defense scored 7 for them on a fumble return and SP set them up with a very short field for 7 more.

MSU actually outgained Wisconsin 325-317. What Wisconsin did was stopped MSU's run game, limited big plays, forced MSU to kick FGs, won the turnover battle, and made about 3 really big plays. Sounds kinda familiar to what Iowa did last year.
 
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[QUOTE="Xerxes, post: 1530630, member: 73482"]I really hope CJ turns into SR year Stanzi. 3,000 passing yards with 25 TDs with only 6 INTs sounds just fine

And just for clarification, Wisconsin had 317 yards total offense total and the really scored 16 points. Defense scored 7 for them on a fumble return and SP set them up with a very short field for 7 more.

MSU actually outgained Wisconsin 325-317. What Wisconsin did was stopped MSU's run game, limited big plays, forced MSU to kick FGs, won the turnover battle, and made about 3 really big plays. Sounds kinda familiar to what Iowa did last year.[/QUOTE]

I watched all those games from my couch, according to people who went to the games, he seemed tentative throw the football down the field. He simply went with the checkdown instead of throwing the ball down the field. Apparently, there were guys open.
 
EstronHawk said:
no team chemistry with the offense, just not gelling. I wonder if this team is still feeling the hangover effects from the Rose Bowl?
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Maybe it is chemistry but I am sensing Greg Davis/Brian Ferentz reverting back to not having a feel for this offense. I agree as some said that Davis wants CJ lighting it up but the run game was good in the first half and really got better in the second half. YET, yet after Rutgers tied it up and King had that great kickoff return there were 3 pass plays and two ended in sacks. I dont see a continuity is play calling.

I think the hawks are running better straight ahead and keep calling that run play where Leshun runs for about 70 yards.
 
Like te idea of "new Kirk", I believe the regression of qb's under KF to be a fan myth. Te stats don't back it up....except for Vandy...and that was GD's awesome horizontal offense...not KF.

Just my opinion.
 
SpiderRico said:
....of seeing teams all over the country putting up good offensive production this week while we continue to muddle along like some middling high school team.

And I don't want to hear anything about "developmental program"...not this year. We returned our starting QB, our top pass catching WR, our top pass catching TE, the majority of our OL, and 2 of our top 3 RBs. There's no reasonable answer as to why we're playing as bad as we are.

Duke just went into NDs house and put up 38 in a win. Wisky went to MSUs house and put up 30 in a win (with a RS frosh at QB)....and the list goes on and on. Yet we go into the "vaunted" Scarlet Knight's house and we're lucky to put up 14pts.

That's pathetic!
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I would agree with the bold but it keeps happening so there has to be a reason and that reason in my opinion is Kirk Ferentz. He acts the same from a big win to a big loss hes the same guy either way. Our players are boring just like him it is what it is. We sometimes win a lot of games but never seem to reach that next level and were not going to either
 
I mentioned in another thread..every year we start out barely competent it seems..How the hell do all these other teams always open the season looking like finely tuned machines?
 
You left out Wisky's 3 point lead at home against Georgia State before icing the game at six points with a late field goal.
 
Key is to get J. Smith to take the next step. Love MVB but he's just a good possession receiver, let's face it. At least with J. Smith there's some hope of having a receiver who actually has play-making ability.
 
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