If Iowa was 10-2 right now and the DJK thing happened

[JonDMiller]

would the reaction to the DJK bust be as big as it has been?

BSpringsteen brought this sort of thing up the other day, or was it OK4P, or perhaps they are the same person I ran this by someone in Kinnick today as I was over there shooting a standup for the BTN. (drive 120 miles to Kinnick, shoot a 60 second spot for the BTN, get it on one take, get back in car and drive back to DSM)

It was asked if we were blowing this out of water, and compared it to OWI, or things like that.

Before I continue, this is not a post that is trying to find moral equivalents, lessen the significance of a football player using narcotics, etc. It's not a good thing.

But if this turns out to be just a DJK thing, I really wonder if Iowa's season had gone according more to expectations, in contention for a B10 title/BCS bid sort of way, and this happened, how the reaction would have gone down?

I think people would have still been very disappointed, because of how much of a favorite DJK has been...one of the more popular players I can recall in the 11 years I have been covering the Hawks.

People would have also been bummed due to his absence in the bowl game (something that I have not seen discussed hardly at all, not saying it should be, just an observation).

But I think this happening after a 7-5 season, it's quite magnified, which I understand...easy to figure that out.

This would have been a speed bump on the way to the Sugar Bowl or something like that, had the season gone the way many of us thought it would.

Agree? Disagree? Don't care?

 

[busabus114]

Wouldnt it be a bigger deal? I think so

 

[ShadasRevenge]

I hope you got paid mileage!

 

[hawkeyescott]

If Iowa was 10-2 right now the search warrant doesn't get served on the property until after January 5th.

 

[ShadasRevenge]

If Iowa was 10-2 right now the search warrant doesn't get served on the property until after January 5th.

/CyFan'd? Because that sounds like something that would get (and probably has been) said on that board.

 

[ShadasRevenge]

It would still be disappointing, and the reaction would still be the same. No matter when it happened, and no matter what the record of the team, it's an incredibly selfish act by a player who has had unconditional support from the fans over his four years here.

 

[hawkeyescott]

/CyFan'd? Because that sounds like something that would get (and probably has been) said on that board.

It was a joke

 

[ShadasRevenge]

It was a joke

Sarcasm is sometimes hard to interpret through the internets. Apologies.

 

[hawkeyescott]

Sarcasm is sometimes hard to interpret through the internets. Apologies.

Yeah we need a sarcasm pirate or something over here as well, I just wanted to say it before the clone trolls see the title and say it.

 

[BSpringsteen]

I think that was OK4P not me...

But to me the drug issue is really a non issue - tons of students and tons of student athletes use drugs.

The issue to me has always been and still is, why was he living with a convicted drug dealer, and what are the implications for the lack of leadership on the team that didn't succeed in getting him out of that situation.

Drugs aren't as bad as an OWI which isn't as bad as Benny Sapp, Ced Everson and Abe Satterfeld. Is it disappointing? Sure, but that's not really the issue for me.

 

[JonDMiller]

The issue to me has always been and still is, why was he living with a convicted drug dealer, and what are the implications for the lack of leadership on the team that didn't succeed in getting him out of that situation..

There is no doubt that is a question that will need to be answered.

 

[BSpringsteen]

There is no doubt that is a question that will need to be answered.

Right, to me that is the only thing that matters... otherwise it's just a college kid doing a little blow.

Never been my thing but it goes on in abundance everywhere.

 

[ShadasRevenge]

There is no doubt that is a question that will need to be answered.

The guy was a convicted drug dealer? If DJK's roomie (and that sounds really gay) has priors, isn't that a matter of public record?

 

[ShadasRevenge]

Right, to me that is the only thing that matters... otherwise it's just a college kid doing a little blow.

Never been my thing but it goes on in abundance everywhere.

There is big difference between "doing a little blow" and smoking weed.

 

[okeefe4prez]

First off, I called 8-4 this season, so I don't think we are way under expectations (I just wanted a W in Evanston so I'm not shamed with yet another "just like football" cheer at the end of the basketball game). Second, I still don't think this is a huge deal. Things in Iowa get blown into way bigger deals than they are. If we were 10-2 gearing up for a BCS game, Ferentz's response to this very well could have been like my initial Dantonio-esque response of "let's wait to see how the court system handles this." But when you're 7-5, you get the old "we lose with ya, we'll lose without ya" knee jerk response like we saw every time someone got in trouble a few years ago.

I just don't think it's that big of deal, but I have a cousin in the slammer for 25 years and my step bro is a guest of Uncle Sugar for 12 years, so my idea of dudes who are really bad and dudes who aren't really that bad is prolly a little skewed. DJK's thing doesn't rise to the level of something that would make me want to disown him from the family like the family members of mine who are in the slammer and I think it is less socially destructive than DUI.

 

[okeefe4prez]

There is big difference between "doing a little blow" and smoking weed.

I agree - the stuff in IC is so heavily stomped on by the time it gets there that the weed is probably more intoxicating.

 

[SDK46]

Imagine if we were 12-0.....cripes....the outcry would out-deafen a Guns n Roses concert.

 

[latrans]

There is no doubt that is a question that will need to be answered.

By whom?

 

[BSpringsteen]

I agree - the stuff in IC is so heavily stomped on by the time it gets there that the weed is probably more intoxicating.

CLASSIC!!! you are my hero!

 

[Palpatine]

10-2 would make casual fans pay more attention to it. A lot of people lost their interest in the middle of November. Nobody in my workplace mentioned DJK at all to me this week.

We have a new basketball coach, and the basketball team is getting fun to watch. People have moved on.