I know it's the big ten

hawkfarmer

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and it's the physical conference, but holy smokes body checks are not cool. It's just ridiculous some of the stuff that wasn't called, and then they call the over the back on White. Come on.

Now, the foul on White was the right call, but Gatens is getting molested. It's just pathetic.
 
Its the.complete inconsistancy that I hate. It is very likely that they come out and call it very tight in the 2nd half. They literally called nothing on Ill that entirw first half. Including two times Ill was trying to foul to stop fast breaks, yet they were not called.
 
Stop crying about the refs.

Not cool.

Since you're not watching the game Cyclone you shouldn't comment on things you know nothing about. The officiating has been bad. Iowa is getting hacked almost every time they touch the ball.
 
Stop crying about the refs.

Not cool.

The refs are not good at all. What I don't like is the inconsistency and "letting them play" is just benefiting the team with the bigger stronger guys. Hurts teams that like to run and use motion offense as they just get grabbed or slammed off of screens.

Also, Gatens hammered Leonard on the ground, and no call, until Leonard goes up and get a love tap from Olaseni (I think) and gets the and 1. Just terrible.
 
I think this hurts the Big Ten during postseason play. Some teams, like Wisconsin, have a philosophy of mugging the other team every play figuring that the refs won't blow the whistle every play. After a while the refs just stop calling it.
 
True... not blaming the loss on it. Just stating the obvious. They blew the whistle on a fast break after a shot clock violation which was late, but earlier and later in the game they got it right with continuing play. Why they blew the whistle on the fast break is simply not knowing the rules.
The foul on White for the rebound that hit the floor along the right hand baseline was ridiculous/scandalous too. The charge calls this season have been bad in pretty much all NCAA games. John Adams has clouded this up amongst the officials.
 
Its the.complete inconsistancy that I hate. It is very likely that they come out and call it very tight in the 2nd half. They literally called nothing on Ill that entirw first half. Including two times Ill was trying to foul to stop fast breaks, yet they were not called.

The inconsistency sucks too. Both definitely and definately.
 
Agreed. I think officiating as a hole has been awful all year. Body checks are ok as is traveling??? Since when?
 
I saw Illinois/Purdue play at Michigan...at every opportunity both teams hold, especially off screens and anytime players cut through the lane or end up in the corner...

When the refs allow this type of play games just get ugly in a hurry, this one was ugly. The thing is, Iowa has to adjust to this type of play, but they don't have too many players that are that physical.
 
I saw Illinois/Purdue play at Michigan...at every opportunity both teams hold, especially off screens and anytime players cut through the lane or end up in the corner... When the refs allow this type of play games just get ugly in a hurry, this one was ugly. The thing is, Iowa has to adjust to this type of play, but they don't have too many players that are that physical.
This, we need an enforcer...a wild bill
 
This is the key, "The thing is, Iowa has to adjust to this type of play, but they don't have too many players that are that physical."

Games are rarely called the same by refs. Inconsistency has been the trademark of refs ever since I started listening to and watching Iowa bb (in the 50s). These same posts could be posts from 1968, 1973, 1985...you name the year and you will read the same posts. (of course internet was not available in 1968 so there would be no posts). But we sat around and talked about how inconsistent refs were, especially when the results of the game did not go well for Iowa. Refs have ALWAYS been inconsistent.

I know it is difficult to do but I simply do not pay attention to reffing during games. Just drive you crazy...plays that you think were called correctly, the opposing fans think was a complete joke and vice versus. There are two sides to the argument.

Refs can let the teams play and let the chips fall where they may. Both teams need to adjust to style of the refs and play accordingly.

Refs can begin a game and call everything they see...everytime a player touches another player off a screen, for example, the refs call holding. In games like that fans complain because the refs did not let the teams play and the game turned into a freethrow shooting contest. The fans then talk about how the refs called ticky-tacky fouls all night.

Which are called 'well called games?' Usually when a team wins the game the games is well called. Go to an opponents site and most think they got screwed by the refs.

It is a never ending argument and the refs are not going to win the approval of both sides.

Besides one can look at it in a variety of ways. The over the back foul would not have been called had the player shooting made the basket. Or had this not occurred, then the foul would not have been called.

I do the same with football. There are always calls that go your way, and there are calls that do not. One side cheers while the other side is angry and calls the refs incompetent.

Refereeing is just part of the game. You can talk about how bad the refs were but usually if you just look at your team, the team was the biggest factor in losing. They played poor defense, players were not shooting well, rebounding was terrible, whatever. Can some of that be attributed to the way a game is called...you bet. Teams just need to adjust...if the other team is more physical, then your team wasn't physical enough.

It is just a forever argument and almost always comes down to "if your team had played better, they would probably have won the game."

Remember, both teams have the same refs and one team adjusts better...that team usually wins.
 

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