Howe: Hawkeyes Show There's Plenty More Room to Grow
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HawkeyeWalker
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Ceiling is fairly high. Nice to see.
We are ball security and a little more work on the deep ball from being quite formidable.
We are ball security and a little more work on the deep ball from being quite formidable.
hawkeyemark
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I agree after thinking after last week's game that our offense seemed a mishmash of Kirk and Brian's philosophies and looked directionless. Today I thought it looked like father and son had put their heads together and figured some things out. Getting a between the tackles runner like Butler back will help also and nobody has commented on the fact that they used Young more today running more up the middle. If you didn't pay attention to Glen Mason who I thought called an awful game today and focused on what we did offensively I don't know how you can help but feel encouraged.
HawkeyeDenis
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In August it looked like Iowa's offensive and defense lines were going to be the strengths of the team. So far they have be adequate at times and not so at others.
Giving Illinois a beat down was good. But Iowa can't depend on second half performances to win games.
Northwestern is going to be a tough game for Iowa. And then there's Ohio State and Wisconsin on the schedule. Iowa should still make it to 6 wins with 8 wins a possibility.
There's a lot of talent on the team. It's just young. Good young linemen, good receivers, running backs. Stanley will be really good given time. 15 TDs 2INTS. Good for any QB. Great for a new QB.
Giving Illinois a beat down was good. But Iowa can't depend on second half performances to win games.
Northwestern is going to be a tough game for Iowa. And then there's Ohio State and Wisconsin on the schedule. Iowa should still make it to 6 wins with 8 wins a possibility.
There's a lot of talent on the team. It's just young. Good young linemen, good receivers, running backs. Stanley will be really good given time. 15 TDs 2INTS. Good for any QB. Great for a new QB.
VTHawk
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Positive things to see especially from the offensive play calling. It was great to see the Hawkeye offense open things up a bit after realizing the run game was not very strong unlike most of the season thus far. I was very happy to see the Hawkeye offense use their two tight ends and their somewhat quick wideouts.
There was a little bit of feel of that Hayden Fry offense today.
I think Stanely played a pretty good game. Again good poise in the pocket, looks confident, and put up some good numbers for his sixth career start. I think the QB position is the least of the Hawkeye problems. It would have been nice to have read some positives about that in the article.
There was a little bit of feel of that Hayden Fry offense today.
I think Stanely played a pretty good game. Again good poise in the pocket, looks confident, and put up some good numbers for his sixth career start. I think the QB position is the least of the Hawkeye problems. It would have been nice to have read some positives about that in the article.
ArvadaHawk
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Well put Rob. I don't agree an OC should be allowed to "learn how to be and OC" at the B1G level; but there was going to be no one other than Brian as the OC. But that is a different topic.
I think the defense had to be gassed. They knocked heads for two straight weeks and were on the field way too much. I agree that we do have talent all over the field and I've noticed that we're really good when we are aggressive and apply pressure. The bend don't break is a recipe for staying on the field longer. Perhaps a more aggressive defensive approach is the key. AJE wreaks havoc; let him loose.
Offensively, I see a rookie QB going through the growing pains, as you point out. He looks like a kid (similar to CJB) that plays better the dirtier his uni is and the more aggressive and attacking the offense is. I also think we need to have two tb's in the backfield. Let's face it, teams send 8 men to Wadley when he's in the backfield. We have to become unpredictable when we want to run. I liked the mesh option handoff that Stanley gained 9 yards on. That is a perfect example of how to use Wadley as a decoy and to be unpredictable.
Be more aggressive and scratch where it itches. I heard someone explain how many coaches believe in a phrase go put out the fire mentality; meaning, when a fireman gets the alarm, they doesn't first ask "who started the fire" they just get there and put it out. That translates to aggression and getting somewhere fast and getting the job done. Do we think too much? Do we play read and react, or do we just react? We seem very mechanical at times. That can cause inconsistency, in my opinion. Your article is right on and fair.
I think the defense had to be gassed. They knocked heads for two straight weeks and were on the field way too much. I agree that we do have talent all over the field and I've noticed that we're really good when we are aggressive and apply pressure. The bend don't break is a recipe for staying on the field longer. Perhaps a more aggressive defensive approach is the key. AJE wreaks havoc; let him loose.
Offensively, I see a rookie QB going through the growing pains, as you point out. He looks like a kid (similar to CJB) that plays better the dirtier his uni is and the more aggressive and attacking the offense is. I also think we need to have two tb's in the backfield. Let's face it, teams send 8 men to Wadley when he's in the backfield. We have to become unpredictable when we want to run. I liked the mesh option handoff that Stanley gained 9 yards on. That is a perfect example of how to use Wadley as a decoy and to be unpredictable.
Be more aggressive and scratch where it itches. I heard someone explain how many coaches believe in a phrase go put out the fire mentality; meaning, when a fireman gets the alarm, they doesn't first ask "who started the fire" they just get there and put it out. That translates to aggression and getting somewhere fast and getting the job done. Do we think too much? Do we play read and react, or do we just react? We seem very mechanical at times. That can cause inconsistency, in my opinion. Your article is right on and fair.
LicThawk
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I loved the straight ahead runs. We use the size at Oline to get to the spot quicker leaning on the defense as opposed to running the big guys horizontally and taking the hits from the 8-9 man fronts. The counters were like an opera singer belted out to me..The entire d would sell out to the zone run the other way and there would be 1-2 guys left on D to tackle the running back.
RobHowe
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I put Stanley's play as a positive in the column. It was more in summary of various areas than a focus on one or two.
I like Stanley. He's progressing and needs to keep that up.
In saying that, Illinois is bad.
South Florida QB Quinton Flowers threw for 280 yards and four TDs against Illinois. He also ran 106 yards and a score.
RobHowe
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Yesterday was troubling in that Illinois started four freshmen on its offensive line.
Need to find ways during the bye week to get more pressure.
hawkinn3
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I've often wondered if a 3-4 would work at Iowa. The 4-3 requires traditional pass rushing DEs to work, when you have a guy like Clayborn or Roth it works great but when you don't it's tough to get pressure.
A 3-4 let's you use more tweener guys, guys a program like Iowa can find easier
RobHowe
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Definitely works for Wisconsin, which recruits similarly to Iowa.
I think the Hawkeyes need to look at blitzing more. I think they're capable with three veteran linebackers.
earlkoppelman
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Need parker and aj on field at same time and nelson.special scheme.aj inside? Parker small.tackles new still.some way we always best.must push.think phil and reece will work it out.MUST push
We can be quite formidable if they can run the ball better against 8 man fronts or pass better to move the defense back off the LOS. Maybe it was because it was Illinois but Wadley looked to be open in space a lot on routes yesterday. Toren Young or Butler in the backfield sometimes and split Wadley out or motion him out passed the hashes to pull guys out of the box.
Dump it to Wadley in the open when they cover downfield, I think the hawks have a decent, better pass blocking line and good receivers with above avg speed.
HawkeyeWalker
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Agreed. Although I still think the "separation" issue is overstated a little, it's very rare for wr to have a lot of space unless they are crazy good, schemed open, or "thrown open. I am very pleased with the improvement in vertical passing, and guys seem much more open than in many years. Easley, VB, Hock, and Fant are catching a lot more balls in space, and ISM and Stanley are getting closer and closer to getting the big one. AW us also open a lot underneath.
I'm a koolaid drinker, but I think the Hawks are close. We are quite literally a little more ball security and 2-3 completed deep shots from 6-0 and maybe seeing the best offensive production since '02.
Maybe I'm wrong, we'll see.
