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JonDMiller

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Iowa basketball media day takes place this aftertoon and Iowa fans are beginning to think about the roundball.

Part of that may have to do with last week's disappointing loss to Penn State, but Fran McCaffery's 2010-2011 season showed promise and had Iowa fans in a basketball mood right when the season ended.

Yes, Iowa went 11-20 last year, the second straight season where the Hawks lost at least 20 games when it had never before experienced such disappointment in the loss column.

However, McCaffery's team played an exciting brand of basketball and lost seven games by two possessions or less. We can see reasons for optimism. Not unbridled optimism, but hopes for a return to relevance for the program.

This year is going to be another brick in the wall of the rebuilding and rebranding of the Iowa basketball program. It's highly unlikely that this team could qualify for the NCAA tournament on a couple of fronts.

The first is that they don't yet have the horses to do it and depth is a concern. The second is that even if this team did manage to win 20 games (which is a longshot) their strength of schedule will likely be so poor that they would not earn an at large bid.

At this point, this is the kind of schedule Iowa needs to play.

NON CONFERENCE: I can see Iowa going 10-3 or 11-2. I have the games at UNI and Iowa State as losses, with the Creighton game in Des Moines being a nail biter. I think Iowa will beat Clemson at home...I think they also pull it out against Creighton so lets go with 11-2. Yes, I am giving Iowa the benefit of the doubt against the other cupcakes on their schedule. This program needs to move past losing to teams like South Dakota State and Long Beach State, as they did last year.

BIG TEN PLAY: The Hawks open league play the way they ended it last year; at home against Purdue. Moore and Johnson are no longer there, but Robbie Hummel is. However, the Hawks can get off to a good start against a beatable Boilermaker team. Iowa then hits the road at Wisconsin and Minnesota, home against a very good Ohio State team, on the road against Michigan State, home against Michigan then at Purdue.

That's a very tough seven game stretch. If Iowa could go 3-4 against that slate, it would be an accomplishment. I am thinking more like 2-5 and even then I would not be too upset.

The last 11 games are more manageable. Two games against Nebraska, Penn State, Indiana and Northwestern await. If they can sweep the Cornhuskers and Nittany Lions, you have a base. Splitting with Indiana and Northwestern is not going out on a limb. If the Hawks can go 6-2 against this slate, they will be on to something for the year. The other three opponents in the back 11 are home against Minnesota and Wisconsin and at Illinois. I think they beat Minnesota at home.

An 8-10 Big Ten record, if the Hawkeyes stay healthy at the point (and in general) doesn't seem to be like a big time stretch. Then again, Iowa has won 4, 4, 5 and 6 games in each of the last four Big Ten seasons. They were 9-7 in Adam Haluska's senior year, the season after Iowa bowed out of the NCAA tournament as a three-seed, a season that is now six years in our rearview mirror.

That's the last time Iowa's basketball program was relevant. Six years. The 21 years prior to Iowa's hiring Steve Alford, the Hawkeyes only missed five NCAA tournaments...they have now missed the last five in a row.

This year is all about getting the program knocking on the door of relevance. I don't think they can do much beyond that this year, but the program has so much positive momentum right now on the recruiting front. If they can finish .500 or better this year, which would mean 16 wins in the regular season, that is progress.

That might allow Iowa to gain entry into one of the lesser post-season tournaments, which is progress.

For now, it's media day. I have never been to one of these things where everyone wasn't real optimistic and I am sure we'll read quotes and stories later today and tomorrow with similar themes.

Zach McCabe moves to a four-role this year, but can play outside as well and is up to 239 pounds. Melsahn Basabe is 234, having shaped his body to better withstand the rigors of the Big Ten. Even Devyn Marble is pushing 200 pounds these days, on the verge of a potential breakout year.

I might buy into it this year...the new practice facility is in use, and assistant coaches are on the record saying the team has hoisted over 40,000 shots collectively in the last few months it has been available.

This is something Iowa's players could not do in previous years due to having to share the court with other teams. That fact is a self inflicted Bob Bowlsby wound that is nearly inexcusable. Now, the Hawkeyes are at least back on even facilities footing with their Big Ten bretheren.

The foundation has literally been laid for this program. Now the Hawks have to keep adding more levels.
 
Reasonable forecast (if not a bit too sunny)

but that's OK, it's the time of the year for it.

Only way what you describe happens is if Cartwright and Basabe are healthy all year. Currently if either one of those guys goes down Hawks are toast. Losing other guys would hurt, obviously, but the other players on the roster can be reasonably replaced with like players.

We aren't at the point as a program where you can just mark down as wins all the games in the non-con that we "should" win. Last year losses to South Dakota State at home, 2009 losses at home to UTSA and Duquense (yikes, I can't believe I just typed that. Iowa lost AT HOME to those two teams.)

My hope is for health for the team and a overall record of over .500. Beyond that we'll have to see what happens.
 
I don't get the love for Marble. I don't dislike him as a player but nothing I saw in the PTL indicated to me he's on the verge of breaking out. He was much more aggressive but still struggled from the arc and the line. It wouldn't be as concerning if he only struggled in one of those areas. The fact he's struggling in both is. Marble could overcome lack of 3pt range with his mid range and dribble drive game, but only if he's also efficient from the line. IMO he's got to be 65%+ from the charity stripe to be considered a real impact player, and I don't see him there this year.
 
Iowa basketball media day takes place this aftertoon and Iowa fans are beginning to think about the roundball.

Part of that may have to do with last week's disappointing loss to Penn State, but Fran McCaffery's 2010-2011 season showed promise and had Iowa fans in a basketball mood right when the season ended. ...

However, McCaffery's team played an exciting brand of basketball and lost seven games by two possessions or less. We can see reasons for optimism. Not unbridled optimism, but hopes for a return to relevance for the program. ...

This year is all about getting the program knocking on the door of relevance. I don't think they can do much beyond that this year, but the program has so much positive momentum right now ...

The foundation has literally been laid for this program. Now the Hawks have to keep adding more levels.


You brought up some great points, Jon, particularly regarding fan perception and expectation. I posted about this in a thread last month (linked).
http://www.hawkeyenation.com/forum/football/33485-question-football-basketball.html#post519332

All I can say for myself (and speculate for many others) is, if Iowa loses AGAIN to SUPERsa and the fightin' Fitzes and in a manner where it is AGAIN obvious that KF and staff failed to seize opportunities / adapt to the game & opponent tendencies, then a lot more will be wishing for roundball to start even sooner.
 
Re: Reasonable forecast (if not a bit too sunny)

Only way what you describe happens is if Cartwright and Basabe are healthy all year. Currently if either one of those guys goes down Hawks are toast. Losing other guys would hurt, obviously, but the other players on the roster can be reasonably replaced with like players.

Ummm, yeah.

A lot of basketball teams would be in trouble if they lost their top two players.

Both of these guys went the distances last year, so it's not like I am playing the lotto here.
 
Re: Reasonable forecast (if not a bit too sunny)

We aren't at the point as a program where you can just mark down as wins all the games in the non-con that we "should" win. Last year losses to South Dakota State at home, 2009 losses at home to UTSA and Duquense (yikes, I can't believe I just typed that. Iowa lost AT HOME to those two teams.)

I'm thinking you may be wrong on that point. 2009's losses at home to UTSA and Duquesne, well that was still Lickball. I'll give you the SDSU loss, but that was our first game under Fran's leadership, not counting the exhibition.

Last March, the team wasn't playing like a team that would have lost at home to SDSU if they had replayed that game.

I'm expecting we'll at least pick up from where we left off last year. A team that was playing more competetively against far better competition than SDSU. I don't think we're going out on a limb to predict W's over the cupcakes.
 
I like Marble, Duff, his main value is on defense. He is one of our best defenders, with those long arms and quickness, he is essential implementing the half court trap that worked very well at times last year. I also like his unpredictability factor. You don't know what he is going to do with the ball. He can create his own shot a lot of the time, unorthodox as it might be. I would certainly hope he is practicing his free throws at the new facility. That is something every Hawk should be doing. Brommer and Archie should be shooting at least 500 free throws a day. Who knows, last year we might have won a couple of the close ones with superior free throw shooting.

Marble also has potential giving Bryce a break at point. He did very well on occasion last year, especially during the Purdue victory at home.
 
Just curious, how many games did Iowa win by two possessions or less?

Thinking that Iowa can win some of the games that they lost by two possessions or less also means that they can lose some the games that they won by two possessions or less.

the key is whether Iowa has the talent to win some of the games they lost by two possessions and still win some of the games they won by two possessions or less. Does Iowa have the talent to win 65% or 70% of the games in which the games will be decided by two possessions or less? To do so, they definitely need bunches of luck and no injuries.
 
Not that I'd ever Look ahead, however thought I'd project the Iowa starting lineup in 2012-13 season.

F Melsahn B
F Aaron White
C Adam Woodbury
G Devyn Marble
G Mike Gesell/ Eric May

Sunny forecast indeed
 
I think it is safe to say the added depth will allow us to be more competitive...especially late in games when we faded due to tired legs and few scoring options. IMO, Marble should forget the 3 point shot and focus on slashing and distributing.

I think the difference between marginal and marked improvement will be in our perimeter play. If guys can knock down some jumpers and keep Basabe from getting swarmed, the team might surprise. Production from Archie, Olaseni and Brommer will also be key. More points / blocks than fouls would be progress.
 
Just curious, how many games did Iowa win by two possessions or less?

Thinking that Iowa can win some of the games that they lost by two possessions or less also means that they can lose some the games that they won by two possessions or less.

the key is whether Iowa has the talent to win some of the games they lost by two possessions and still win some of the games they won by two possessions or less. Does Iowa have the talent to win 65% or 70% of the games in which the games will be decided by two possessions or less? To do so, they definitely need bunches of luck and no injuries.

Can't you once just see the glass as half full instead of always half empty. Seriously, are you going through life with such a negative attitude as well?
 
Didn't meant to sound doom and gloom...

Ummm, yeah.

A lot of basketball teams would be in trouble if they lost their top two players.

Both of these guys went the distances last year, so it's not like I am playing the lotto here.

but the drop-off is so precipitous on the roster without either one of them. And it's not as if Iowa hasn't sustained a serious injury of some sort pretty much every year in recent memory.
Lickliter's first year: Freeman misses good chunk of pre-season. Peterson also suffers thumb injury that limits him.
Lickliter's second year: Peterson suffers leg injury early in conference season, done for year. Tate suffers ankle injury first game of conference play, misses some time, comes back but is never close to the same player the rest of the year.
Lickliter's third year: Fuller misses good chunk of non-conference season with injury.
Mac's first year: Gatens misses first 2 games of season with injury. Proceeds to go 6 for 35 from 3-point land in his first 7 games back from injury as he likely came back too early. Payne starts the first 5 games, has the sports hernia and is done for the year. Didn't turn out to be huge as a better talent was waiting in Cartwright. We don't have that this year should Cartwright go down.
 
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