History repeating?

patmyne

patmyne

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Auburn had won 1 national title before tonight (1957)

Guess who won their only title the following year?

I'm just saying.... :)
 


patmyne said:
Auburn had won 1 national title before tonight (1957)

Guess who won their only title the following year?

I'm just saying.... :)
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Well consider me one who likes what you're saying, doubtful it will happen, but I'm on board.
 


I'll jump on the board of hopefuls like every year, but I will have to come back down to reality and say NO.
 






thejumper5 said:
LSU was crowned National Champs by AP before the bowls were played. Following the bowls, UPI declared Iowa the National Champs. I go with Iowa on this one.
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That's not true.

LSU finished number 1 in both the AP and UPI. Iowa won the National Championship according to the Football Writer's Association of America.

That's always been the problem with college football, with the bowl games it's hard to crown a true champion. I've heard that LSU refused to play against any team with black players and therefore played a weaker schedule. Without researching that I'm not 100% sure of it's truth.
 


gohawkz said:
That's not true.

LSU finished number 1 in both the AP and UPI. Iowa won the National Championship according to the Football Writer's Association of America.

That's always been the problem with college football, with the bowl games it's hard to crown a true champion. I've heard that LSU refused to play against any team with black players and therefore played a weaker schedule. Without researching that I'm not 100% sure of it's truth.
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Double checked, and yes LSU was the UPI champ, but it was also crowned before the bowls. Iowa was the ONLY team crowned national champion after the season was completely over.
 




Also LSU's bowl game was basically a home game (Sugar Bowl in NO) and they won 7-0 while Iowa played Cal in Pasadena and walloped them. Iowa's offense was unstoppable that year, they would've easily beat LSU.
 


iowa13 said:
Also LSU's bowl game was basically a home game (Sugar Bowl in NO) and they won 7-0 while Iowa played Cal in Pasadena and walloped them. Iowa's offense was unstoppable that year, they would've easily beat LSU.
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I agree, too bad they didn't get the chance to do that. :mad:
 






Until the late sixties or early seventies, the national champion was declared before the bowl games. Bowl games were considered to be a reward for an excellent seasons and were supposed to be fun. Things were a lot different back then.

Minnesota in 60' & Michigan State in '65 won the national title despite losing the Rose Bowl. Also, Notre Dame never went to bowl games. Notre Dame went to its first bowl game after the '69 season.

Also, the ACC, the SEC & Southwest Conference were all lilly white. The Southwest Conference had its first two black players in 1966. One at Baylor and one at SMU. Alabama did not begin recruiting black players until after the '70 season.

In 1963, Mississippi State defied an order of the Governor not to play in the NCAA tournament because the team they were scheduled to play had black players. The coach snuck the team out of town to travel to East Lansing to face Loyola of Chicago. Loyola won the tournament.
 


There never has been...and still isn't....a national champion in Division 1 (or its equivalent) college football.

That being said....Iowa has just as much right to consider themselves "mythical" national champion of 1958 as does LSU....probably more so.
 


ColumbusHawk said:
Until the late sixties or early seventies, the national champion was declared before the bowl games. Bowl games were considered to be a reward for an excellent seasons and were supposed to be fun. Things were a lot different back then.

Minnesota in 60' & Michigan State in '65 won the national title despite losing the Rose Bowl. Also, Notre Dame never went to bowl games. Notre Dame went to its first bowl game after the '69 season.

Also, the ACC, the SEC & Southwest Conference were all lilly white. The Southwest Conference had its first two black players in 1966. One at Baylor and one at SMU. Alabama did not begin recruiting black players until after the '70 season.

In 1963, Mississippi State defied an order of the Governor not to play in the NCAA tournament because the team they were scheduled to play had black players. The coach snuck the team out of town to travel to East Lansing to face Loyola of Chicago. Loyola won the tournament.
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It's amazing to think racism was so rampant just decades ago. Sure, there's problems today but it's amazing that we've come so far since the 60's.
 


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