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SpecialKHawk

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Just heard in the post game that Josh Olgesby asked Bobby about what he was doing wrong with his shot. Bobby said you are falling back and shoot it with confidence. Josh goes out and hits 3-4 after going about 1-20.

I recall when Gatens went on his absolute tear during his senior year he had talked to Bobby about his shot and got a tip on his release.

Come on Fran - this is the kind of stuff that someone on your staff should be doing!
 
Uthoff does the same thing at times.


How do you know Fran or his staff isn't telling him. Do you have teenagers? Teenagers do the same thing with their parents. Won't listen to them but when asked or if told by somebody elses, then all-the-sudden they have the light-bulb go on and do it.
 
DDThompson said:
Uthoff does the same thing at times.


How do you know Fran or his staff isn't telling him. Do you have teenagers? Teenagers do the same thing with their parents. Won't listen to them but when asked or if told by somebody elses, then all-the-sudden they have the light-bulb go on and do it.
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Fair point. It is just striking to me how bad Fran's program has been shooting the ball the past couple of years. Get it figured out.
 
SpecialKHawk said:
Fair point. It is just striking to me how bad Fran's program has been shooting the ball the past couple of years. Get it figured out.
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It's frustrating. I'm wondering if what others have said isn't the underlying culprit: substitution patterns and player groupings. There doesn't appear to be any structure in this area. Half-court offense is all about structure.

I noticed in UNI game:

-spacing was bad,
-hard screens were non-existent, (don't work hard to get open or each other open)
-gesell drives into paint in the middle of three trees: drives too far in and/or no lanes to pass ball to open or attacking player,
-open shots not taken because UNI player flying at shooter,
-poor positioning by guards to get the ball inside (above FT line extended instead of below),
-bigs getting pushed 3-5' off the block,

all this stuff is fundamental. these coaches have been successful wherever they've been so i can't believe they got stupid all of the sudden. so what's left?

-floor chemistry?
-coach/player chemistry?
-player IQ?

I don't know.

I don't think the coaches do either. I sat in the second row behind the Iowa bench vs. UNI. I saw coaches shaking their heads over the same mistakes multiple times. Put a different player in and he'd make the same mistake.

I heard Fran yell at his coaches about JO, "He passes up an open three there (in corner by bench) and then takes that funky shot (long on wing)."

I heard Fran yell at his coaches about MG (when driving into lane and being surrounded by 3 trees for about the 4th time in the game), "Where the funk does he think he's going again!"

I heard Fran yell at Woody for not being strong with the ball and at the coaches, "He never pump fakes."

I heard him yell at the team, "Somebody on this team needs to make a funking basket."



Somewhere along the line the players have to take some pride and do something about it.


I was interested to watch Fran to see if he did most of the subbing or if Speraw did. It was Fran 95% of the time. So somewhere along the line, Fran needs to get a sub pattern that makes sense for the players. I'm coming around with some complaints of others that the sub pattern and floor personnel don't makes sense some of the time.
 
OK, I love Iowa basketball and I love Fran, but here is what I see:

1. He needs to whittle it down to an 8 man rotation. 10 guys playing is simply too much.
2. Move White inside and move Uthoff outside on offense. Pretty obvious.
3. Jok needs to start....bring Anthony off the bench. Clemmons is a great defender but can't score.
4. None of the three recruits look ready. Is it too late to redshirt??
 
DDThompson said:
Uthoff does the same thing at times.


How do you know Fran or his staff isn't telling him. Do you have teenagers? Teenagers do the same thing with their parents. Won't listen to them but when asked or if told by somebody elses, then all-the-sudden they have the light-bulb go on and do it.
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The teenagers quote is spot on. Buddies of mine and i switch roles all the time. I tell his daughter what he wants and he tells my daughter what i want (sports related). Granted JO is a different story. Sometimes a different voice is what is needed
 
SpecialKHawk said:
Just heard in the post game that Josh Olgesby asked Bobby about what he was doing wrong with his shot. Bobby said you are falling back and shoot it with confidence. Josh goes out and hits 3-4 after going about 1-20.

I recall when Gatens went on his absolute tear during his senior year he had talked to Bobby about his shot and got a tip on his release.

Come on Fran - this is the kind of stuff that someone on your staff should be doing!
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Pretty sure most posters on this forum already knew this. :mad:
 
DDThompson said:
It's frustrating. I'm wondering if what others have said isn't the underlying culprit: substitution patterns and player groupings. There doesn't appear to be any structure in this area. Half-court offense is all about structure.

I noticed in UNI game:

-spacing was bad,
-hard screens were non-existent, (don't work hard to get open or each other open)
-gesell drives into paint in the middle of three trees: drives too far in and/or no lanes to pass ball to open or attacking player,
-open shots not taken because UNI player flying at shooter,
-poor positioning by guards to get the ball inside (above FT line extended instead of below),
-bigs getting pushed 3-5' off the block,

all this stuff is fundamental. these coaches have been successful wherever they've been so i can't believe they got stupid all of the sudden. so what's left?

-floor chemistry?
-coach/player chemistry?
-player IQ?

I don't know.

I don't think the coaches do either. I sat in the second row behind the Iowa bench vs. UNI. I saw coaches shaking their heads over the same mistakes multiple times. Put a different player in and he'd make the same mistake.

I heard Fran yell at his coaches about JO, "He passes up an open three there (in corner by bench) and then takes that funky shot (long on wing)."

I heard Fran yell at his coaches about MG (when driving into lane and being surrounded by 3 trees for about the 4th time in the game), "Where the funk does he think he's going again!"

I heard Fran yell at Woody for not being strong with the ball and at the coaches, "He never pump fakes."

I heard him yell at the team, "Somebody on this team needs to make a funking basket."



Somewhere along the line the players have to take some pride and do something about it.


I was interested to watch Fran to see if he did most of the subbing or if Speraw did. It was Fran 95% of the time. So somewhere along the line, Fran needs to get a sub pattern that makes sense for the players. I'm coming around with some complaints of others that the sub pattern and floor personnel don't makes sense some of the time.
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Great post. I think the thing that I have come to realize now is this is all a coaching problem. When you have the same systemic problems on your team that you have had for years, that is coaching. When a 3 year starter at PG is still doing thing that make you say "what the funk is he doing" that is a coaching problem. When the supposed "best shooter you have ever been around" is passing up open 3's and taking contested ones as a Sr, that is a coaching problem.

These are all basic things that could/should have been coached out of players by the time they are Jr. and Sr. I can understand some of this from younger players, but it is inexcusable at this stage. These are Fran's players, and Fran's system. This is usually why Mid Major schools with tons of Jr. and Sr. are such a threat, they have been coached up and are now dangerous. Fran is doing something wrong if he can't get his kids to buy in or learn.
 
deanvogs said:
Great post. I think the thing that I have come to realize now is this is all a coaching problem. When you have the same systemic problems on your team that you have had for years, that is coaching. When a 3 year starter at PG is still doing thing that make you say "what the funk is he doing" that is a coaching problem. When the supposed "best shooter you have ever been around" is passing up open 3's and taking contested ones as a Sr, that is a coaching problem.

These are all basic things that could/should have been coached out of players by the time they are Jr. and Sr. I can understand some of this from younger players, but it is inexcusable at this stage. These are Fran's players, and Fran's system. This is usually why Mid Major schools with tons of Jr. and Sr. are such a threat, they have been coached up and are now dangerous. Fran is doing something wrong if he can't get his kids to buy in or learn.
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Spot on here mate.
 
DDThompson said:
It's frustrating. I'm wondering if what others have said isn't the underlying culprit: substitution patterns and player groupings. There doesn't appear to be any structure in this area. Half-court offense is all about structure.

I noticed in UNI game:

-spacing was bad,
-hard screens were non-existent, (don't work hard to get open or each other open)
-gesell drives into paint in the middle of three trees: drives too far in and/or no lanes to pass ball to open or attacking player,
-open shots not taken because UNI player flying at shooter,
-poor positioning by guards to get the ball inside (above FT line extended instead of below),
-bigs getting pushed 3-5' off the block,

all this stuff is fundamental. these coaches have been successful wherever they've been so i can't believe they got stupid all of the sudden. so what's left?

-floor chemistry?
-coach/player chemistry?
-player IQ?

I don't know.

I don't think the coaches do either. I sat in the second row behind the Iowa bench vs. UNI. I saw coaches shaking their heads over the same mistakes multiple times. Put a different player in and he'd make the same mistake.

I heard Fran yell at his coaches about JO, "He passes up an open three there (in corner by bench) and then takes that funky shot (long on wing)."

I heard Fran yell at his coaches about MG (when driving into lane and being surrounded by 3 trees for about the 4th time in the game), "Where the funk does he think he's going again!"

I heard Fran yell at Woody for not being strong with the ball and at the coaches, "He never pump fakes."

I heard him yell at the team, "Somebody on this team needs to make a funking basket."



Somewhere along the line the players have to take some pride and do something about it.


I was interested to watch Fran to see if he did most of the subbing or if Speraw did. It was Fran 95% of the time. So somewhere along the line, Fran needs to get a sub pattern that makes sense for the players. I'm coming around with some complaints of others that the sub pattern and floor personnel don't makes sense some of the time.
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He sounds like a really fun coach to play for...
 
I don't think you can throw in the towel on Fran or the team yet. They just finished a non con that they needed to learn who they are and what their roles are. The N. FLA coach nailed it about shooting. Shooting is a confidence thing and Iowa's players aren't shooting with confidence. That isn't a coaches fault. That has to be corrected by each player.
 
Consistently shooting the ball poorly = Not being very good. Until they prove otherwise, we will be a lower tier B10 team and win 6 -7 games.
 
This team squeaks into the BIG dance, I think that will be about as good as we get with Fran. Take it or leave it, it is what it is.
 
I dont think the players are also thinking 100% shot when they go up to take it. Shooters know they are taking it before they get the pass or dribble to the opening. They are ready and focused on the rim, they are not distracted by some defender closing on them.

I hope Gesell takes the N Florida coaches comments to heart and takes his elbow shot and jumper early when he gets it in rhythm. I hope Jok just keeps shooting when he 'sees and feels' his shot. Same with Uhtoff.

If Woody is going to continue to be soft inside he needs to get to the 15 foot mark because he can make that shot 50% of the time. I also think Woody needs to go up strong as soon as he gets the ball on the block and he definitely needs to mix in some shot fakes and draw fouls and old style buckets and fouls
 
Year 1 - Nothing
Year 2 - NIT
Year 3 - NIT Runner-up
Year 4 - NCAA
Year 5 - To be determined...maybe a reversal of last season where we started fast and dropped off

We have trended upwards in the first 4 years and I'm not going to throw in the towel on the coach or the season before conference play has started in year 5.
 
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