Hawks competed tonight and that is what I want to see

EddyP

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I was impressed actually. Left it out on the floor. Purdue did not play poorly by any means. They are a pretty good team. They seemed to have an answer every time the Hawks were looking to make a move. Gotta hand it to them. Yeah we didn't defend the best but we fought back. Glad to see Bryce is coming back. WTF was that take to the rack at the end of the game? So much for the hammy injury. Marble can run the point in the BIG and that is good to know. Didn't have his best game but played well. This team will get better and knock some teams off. I was encouraged but it sucks to lose. Great effort.
 
I was impressed actually. Left it out on the floor. Purdue did not play poorly by any means. They are a pretty good team. They seemed to have an answer every time the Hawks were looking to make a move. Gotta hand it to them. Yeah we didn't defend the best but we fought back. Glad to see Bryce is coming back. WTF was that take to the rack at the end of the game? So much for the hammy injury. Marble can run the point in the BIG and that is good to know. Didn't have his best game but played well. This team will get better and knock some teams off. I was encouraged but it sucks to lose. Great effort.

Iowa b-ball has closed the talent gap. That said, they look pretty bad w/out Marble out there, at times, and at times Marble tried to do too much and hurt the team. Still, he is Iowa's key player.

Ultimately, the difference was perimeter defense (Gatens could not get open looks). Purdue played suffocating D while Iowa is still trying to figure out tough defense w/out fouling. Good effort, though. This team looked more like a B-10 caliber team than last year's team that beat Purdue, IMO.
 
I was impressed actually. Left it out on the floor. Purdue did not play poorly by any means. They are a pretty good team. They seemed to have an answer every time the Hawks were looking to make a move. Gotta hand it to them. Yeah we didn't defend the best but we fought back. Glad to see Bryce is coming back. WTF was that take to the rack at the end of the game? So much for the hammy injury. Marble can run the point in the BIG and that is good to know. Didn't have his best game but played well. This team will get better and knock some teams off. I was encouraged but it sucks to lose. Great effort.

I didn't think it was a great effort on defense. Marble and Cartwright and others lost their man on dribble-drive penetration, and Purdue finished about 90 percent of their shots at the rim. The Hawks need a lot of improvement in their footwork, positioning, helping, sliding, and covering.

Brommer is basically useless. Even though he added muscle, his hands are very weak.
 
I feel our defense suffers on the help defense. In both 2-3 and man, Purdue would drive and nobody would be there to help. Once Iowa's post defense improves so should the help. Also, not a knock on Basabe as he played good, but a legit 5 man would be a huge help defensively.
 
I agree, they did look good for the most part. I feel that the shot selection was not very good in the last five min. of the game. Also a question for the more bball minds on here, why did iowa not foul right away with 49 sec left? Instead they allowed purdue to roll off 35 seconds. My thoughts are to foul right away with 49 sec and maybe get at least one more posession if not two. Am I wrong in my thoughts?
 
They did a very good job working on offensive end. I like how they were taking the ball to the rack. If they were not getting the basket, they were getting fouls. On D, they need to work as a team. They worry about their man and that is it. They need to work on their awareness. It will help them get into the open court and get a few more easy baskets as well.
 
It is tough to play defense when Iowa typically gets called for a foul for just breathing on the opponent, while other teams (like Purdue) can push, bump and hack almost at will.
 
last night was a good example of why it will be a very good thing to put a 6'10 plus guy in the middle
that alone would put a stop to those little floater at the rim which they made all to often
and somehow Iowa has to avoid a little used bench player to come in and have a career night
 
The talent gap is still too great thanks to Todd Lickliter and his non D-1 caliber recruits.
 
We just couldn't get over the hump. I truley believe that if we ever would have captured the lead... even if by 1 point it would have led to a win but we just couldn't get the lead. Credit to Purdue who put a stop to our run every time.
 
Our defense was lacking for sure. But I was very encouraged by what I saw.
Is that the team that lost to Campbell?
 
It is tough to play defense when Iowa typically gets called for a foul for just breathing on the opponent, while other teams (like Purdue) can push, bump and hack almost at will.

Wow-what game did you watch. We went to the line 29 times compared to 11 for Boilers.
 
I feel our defense suffers on the help defense. In both 2-3 and man, Purdue would drive and nobody would be there to help. Once Iowa's post defense improves so should the help. Also, not a knock on Basabe as he played good, but a legit 5 man would be a huge help defensively.

Help defense is definitely an issue in man for us. In zone, however, it often seems like we help a little too much. How many times in zone do we see to guys all over the ball, only to see it kicked over to the next man who is wide open for a three (and usually hits it)?

We just couldn't get over the hump. I truley believe that if we ever would have captured the lead... even if by 1 point it would have led to a win but we just couldn't get the lead. Credit to Purdue who put a stop to our run every time.

That's why Purdue I think will still finish in the top half of the Big Ten. They aren't as talented as they have been, but they know how to win. I like them over Illinois a lot.
 
Wow-what game did you watch. We went to the line 29 times compared to 11 for Boilers.

I was just speaking in general, not last night's game in particular. I should have made that qualification in my post.

Overall, Purdue has usually been allowed to be more physical than the Hawks. Same with Wisconsin.
 
My biggest problem with lasts night game was the fact that Iowa seemed to be fighting to stay alive, then they would stall at every opportunity to take a lead. Good, hard fought game, just wish they could have gotten over the hump.
 
Help defense is great, but the most important aspect of any defensive possession is simple staying between your man and the ball. You have to give the prop space to the offensive player in order to keep that man in front. Any time you have to provide help you are putting the rest of the group in a vulnerable position.

I'm on the Aaron White bandwagon as much as anyone else, but his defense against Purdue was putrid. The reason DJ Byrd got off was he went right at White. First, taking advantage of White's lackluster closeouts and second driving around him. At one point when both he and Josh were in the game it was obvious the only stops we would get defensively would be simply if Purdue missed an easy shot (which they seldom did).

Two other clear examples that pop into my head are when May closed out off of the inbounds pass and let his guy blow by him for a 3 point play, and when Basabe got iso'd at elbow with a freshmen and let him take him to the hoop for a play that should have been an And 1. You simply do not see Purdue making those mistakes.

Perhaps the most glaring example of not understanding space, man, rim concepts was the Iowa State game. You have this Royce White who can handle, has insane athleticism, and likes to go left. Many, many times that game McCabe would crowd him with NO chance to keep him in front. The results were two uncontested thunderous dunks (where the blow by was so egregious that nobody could really react) or immediate help defense where everybody is rotating around and scrambling.

We'll continue to get better in this area, and obviously more athleticism will help. There are already good signs: Marble is disruptive off the ball; Basabe has grown leaps and bounds on his ball screen hedge and recover concepts; Gatens has grown into a workhorse defender; McCabe is always will to sacrifice his body.

And Brommer is always willing to foul.
 

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