Figuring Out KF - Using Logic to Assess the Illogical

[HawkGold]

On this board, we've all tried to figure out KF and when we think we do we don't. Most of us try and use logic to do so. Is that our mistake?

Going back in history - The logic conclusion to his contract negotiations would lead one to assume he was not going to stay long.... He stayed.

KF always left the door open to the NFL....he stayed.

KF developed a decent amount of NFL talent, sometimes out of nobody's...that should lead to wins...it doesn't consistently.

KF qb's have good junior years that don't lead to fantastic senior years consistently.

Great KF years should lead to building a consistent program...it doesn't

When you count him out, he puts in some great years.

He recruits great dual threat QBs and makes them drop back and pass or changes positions for them.

He runs a tight ship on public insubordination and then makes a rebel his QB.

KF doesn't play a future NFL RB much early who becomes a star...and doesn't capitalize on it.

He plays a very conservative game on offense against MSU and then burns them deep (almost successful a 2nd time) and then doesn't go back to it.

He stays with QBs way to long and then makes changes after it already fails every way possible.

Developing lesser talent into talent might lead one to assume that it could be built on...it doesn't

Recruiting top athletes who are successful would lead one to logically conclude he would want to recruit top talent (it doesn't appear so.

Using Illogical Thinking Logically, I've Come to the Following Conclusion - After signing the big contract, he doesn't intend to stay.

Being a Hawk fan the first year has contributed to me losing my logic...

 

[PCHawk]

Two things this year really show that fans are right with their criticism of Kirk.

Listening to HN podcast, Jon was saying when they line up, they count defenders and autible to which side they have the numbers advantage. Are you kidding me? How much proof is that that Kirk is junior varsity level when it comes to schemes? It would take studying one game film for any competent D1 coach to recognize and know how to exploit that and get them to run exactly where you want them to run. To me, that's undeniable proof how amateur Kirk is.

Then there's Wadley. He has the highest average in Iowa history for running backs who have 1000 career yards, yet he's not even the starter on the team. It is so blatantly obvious that he is the best player, yet Kirk doesn't see it. Once again, undeniable proof that fans are right again when saying how clueless Kirk is at evaluating who gives his team the best chance to win.

 

[HawkGold]

Two things this year really show that fans are right with their criticism of Kirk.

Listening to HN podcast, Jon was saying when they line up, they count defenders and autible to which side they have the numbers advantage. Are you kidding me? How much proof is that that Kirk is junior varsity level when it comes to schemes? It would take studying one game film for any competent D1 coach to recognize and know how to exploit that and get them to run exactly where you want them to run. To me, that's undeniable proof how amateur Kirk is.

Then there's Wadley. He has the highest average in Iowa history for running backs who have 1000 career yards, yet he's not even the starter on the team. It is so blatantly obvious that he is the best player, yet Kirk doesn't see it. Once again, undeniable proof that fans are right again when saying how clueless Kirk is at evaluating who gives his team the best chance to win.

Years ago I played on a baseball team in a Central Missouri league that had an ISU former football player on it. There were a number of former minor league and a few major league players in the league along with major college. Anyway, the ISU guy said that Nebby would tell them what play they were running and exactly where they were running. He said they couldn't stop it, even with the 3rd team. Maybe KF thinks Iowa could be Nebby of old? Execution is everything right?

About the comment concerning Wadley, the problem is that you are using standard logic. As seemingly predictable as KF is, I don't think predictable logic can apply with him. That observation might be the key to figuring out KF. Don't use standard logic.

 

[DJL]

Years ago I played on a baseball team in a Central Missouri league that had an ISU former football player on it. There were a number of former minor league and a few major league players in the league along with major college. Anyway, the ISU guy said that Nebby would tell them what play they were running and exactly where they were running. He said they couldn't stop it, even with the 3rd team. Maybe KF thinks Iowa could be Nebby of old? Execution is everything right?

About the comment concerning Wadley, the problem is that you are using standard logic. As seemingly predictable as KF is, I don't think predictable logic can apply with him. That observation might be the key to figuring out KF. Don't use standard logic.

You are spot on with the Nebby analysis. I think it's been said consistently over the years that everyone knows exactly what Iowa is going to do, he just believes that if he executes it correctly, we can be successful. That may be so when you play the 2015 schedule with the 2015 players we had, but when you have less talent than your opponents, and they know exactly where you are going, you are going to lose unless you somehow get some really lucky breaks. And we are losing and will continue to lose because he will not adjust.

 

[PCHawk]

You are spot on with the Nebby analysis. I think it's been said consistently over the years that everyone knows exactly what Iowa is going to do, he just believes that if he executes it correctly, we can be successful. That may be so when you play the 2015 schedule with the 2015 players we had, but when you have less talent than your opponents, and they know exactly where you are going, you are going to lose unless you somehow get some really lucky breaks. And we are losing and will continue to lose because he will not adjust.

He doesn't have the ability to adjust.

 

[DJL]

He doesn't have the ability to adjust.

I think you are correct. He is an excellent position coach who can teach the fundamentals well. But if they don't have the talent to beat teams by executing basic plays, we have no chance. At least we used to have coordinators, particularly on defense who could help game plan and get it done, now it's total armature hour across the board.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

Two things this year really show that fans are right with their criticism of Kirk.

Listening to HN podcast, Jon was saying when they line up, they count defenders and autible to which side they have the numbers advantage. Are you kidding me? How much proof is that that Kirk is junior varsity level when it comes to schemes? It would take studying one game film for any competent D1 coach to recognize and know how to exploit that and get them to run exactly where you want them to run. To me, that's undeniable proof how amateur Kirk is.

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This one has been going on for years. Worst part is, even if it's the short side of the field (whicih is usually is) they run it. Of course there are fewer defenders, there's less turf to cover. I'm sure some teams bait us into that, knowing that it's our M.O.

A few years back, we had some fun with it in our section. Guys would call it out before the snap..and we'd turn and laugh with each other when it got predictably stuffed. We even had a 60 year old lady joining in..SHE could read it.

Pathetic.

 

[NEIChawk]

This thread is highly illogical (Spock voice and raised eyebrow)....The good old Captain is a hard nut to crack.....

 

[BigD]

We have become the Rodney Dangerfield of college football. Ok, que the videos links here.

 

[NCHawker]

podcast.

http://www.thegazette.com/subject/s...he-tiger-its-the-thrill-of-the-fight-20161110

 

[hawkeyes87]

This thread is highly illogical (Spock voice and raised eyebrow)....

Spock would not approve of KF, who ignores his most famous advice / quotes:

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one."

"Throw long and prosper."

 

[NEIChawk]

Spock would not approve of KF, who ignores his most famous advice / quotes:

"The needs of the many outweigh the needs of the few. Or the one."

"Throw long and prosper."

Ha ha, that's awesome.....Throw long and prosper.....Are you hearing that Greg?

 

[earlkoppelman]

He doesn't have the ability to adjust.

I agree!!!!!

 

[HawkGold]

Spock on Human Logic...can apply to KF:
Spock being illogical: Maybe there is hope for KF:

 

[Ickehawk]

Logical- characterized by or capable of clear, sound reasoning.
Yeah, there's a lot of 'capable' sound reasoning presented by the 'children' of this board. Lol..... All I ever read is yahoos emoting.

Analyze- examine methodically and in detail the constitution or structure of (something, especially information), typically for purposes of explanation and interpretation.
Who on here has 'methodically and in detail' examined the Iowa football team, lol...You folks kill me. And there isn't one of you with enough 'knowledge' and experience to logically analzye anything. In order to do a peer review of KF, you would have to be his 'peer'...which none of you are. You are just a bunch of carping whiners....but you're entertaining at times.

 

[HawkGold]

Logical- characterized by or capable of clear, sound reasoning.
Yeah, there's a lot of 'capable' sound reasoning presented by the 'children' of this board. Lol..... All I ever read is yahoos emoting.

Analyze- examine methodically and in detail the constitution or structure of (something, especially information), typically for purposes of explanation and interpretation.
Who on here has 'methodically and in detail' examined the Iowa football team, lol...You folks kill me. And there isn't one of you with enough 'knowledge' and experience to logically analzye anything. In order to do a peer review of KF, you would have to be his 'peer'...which none of you are. You are just a bunch of carping whiners....but you're entertaining at times.

I knew you wouldnt disappoint. Using your logic that sense you aren't me you can't evaluate me. LOVE IT