Ferentz Wishes He had Spiked It

JonDMiller

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""Well, in retrospect, I wish we had clocked it quite frankly. And we had an 11‑seconds play in there, which is interesting, the one where Reisner ran out of bounds, that took 11 second, part of our thought and for whatever, the sneak took one second, I’m not so sure that happened. We thought the clock was going to be down under ten when ‑‑ after the sneak. That was our thinking.
Retrospect, I wish we had clocked it. I think we ended up with 12 on the clock after the sneak. I’m not sure how that happened. But anyway, that was part of the thinking. Retrospect, I wish I had done it over, could do over. I can’t. So, live with it.""

My guess is that his post game comments on Saturday were just a guy that was still pretty close to the raw emotion of things...Kirk's fallible, the same as we all are. I know I wish I had a few do overs in my life, too
 
I think the bad part is that it really wasn't a tough call to make in most of our eyes ... and I'm not talking about with the advantage of hindsight either. It's hard to watch your team not execute something seemingly simple when they can execute the seemingly impossible.

Get 4-star recruits from out of state to come to IC? CHECK (how do they do that?)
Get a new O-Line to gel in time for the tough conference games? CHECK (very impressive!)
Continuously turn unheralded players into stars? CHECK (what are they feeding them?)
Watch out for a fake punt, when it is really the only way you can lose the game?
Spike the ball to save your last time-out for a game winning FG attempt?
 
I never needed him to admit his mistake. I just want him to learn from it and not let it happen again.
 
bwsmoney said:
I think the bad part is that it really wasn't a tough call to make in most of our eyes ... and I'm not talking about with the advantage of hindsight either. It's hard to watch your team not execute something seemingly simple when they can execute the seemingly impossible.

Get 4-star recruits from out of state to come to IC? CHECK (how do they do that?)
Get a new O-Line to gel in time for the tough conference games? CHECK (very impressive!)
Continuously turn unheralded players into stars? CHECK (what are they feeding them?)
Watch out for a fake punt, when it is really the only way you can lose the game?
Spike the ball to save your last time-out for a game winning FG attempt?
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I'm not sure why people don't understand Kirk is taking the blame on this, when it was probably either players or Assistant coaches who messed it up. They obviously had instruction to down it, as everyone was getting set, Arob and Stanzi are signaling for the spike. The ball gets kicked and at that point either Stanzi or an assistant probably made a move to try to get a play called. That was the mistake, so the coaches took the TO.

Kirk just isn't going to let anyone else take the blame for it, that is the long and short of it. The way the play went down, I don't know how anyone can think they didn't instruct the players to down the ball right away.....
 
While this loss sure stings, and we have to "live with it" - we'll all feel a lot better if we can put a beat down on MSU this weekend.
 
JonDMiller said:
""Well, in retrospect, I wish we had clocked it quite frankly. And we had an 11‑seconds play in there, which is interesting, the one where Reisner ran out of bounds, that took 11 second, part of our thought and for whatever, the sneak took one second, I’m not so sure that happened. We thought the clock was going to be down under ten when ‑‑ after the sneak. That was our thinking.
Retrospect, I wish we had clocked it. I think we ended up with 12 on the clock after the sneak. I’m not sure how that happened. But anyway, that was part of the thinking. Retrospect, I wish I had done it over, could do over. I can’t. So, live with it.""

My guess is that his post game comments on Saturday were just a guy that was still pretty close to the raw emotion of things...Kirk's fallible, the same as we all are. I know I wish I had a few do overs in my life, too
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I think Kirk goes into the post-game press meetings looking to say as little as possible. As you said, the emotions are too raw and he doesn't want to compound things by saying things he'd regret later. Now that he's had some time to come down, it seems like he's able to say things that are a little closer to what he actually thinks.
 
deanvogs said:
I'm not sure why people don't understand Kirk is taking the blame on this, when it was probably either players or Assistant coaches who messed it up. They obviously had instruction to down it, as everyone was getting set, Arob and Stanzi are signaling for the spike. The ball gets kicked and at that point either Stanzi or an assistant probably made a move to try to get a play called. That was the mistake, so the coaches took the TO.

Kirk just isn't going to let anyone else take the blame for it, that is the long and short of it. The way the play went down, I don't know how anyone can think they didn't instruct the players to down the ball right away.....
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Completely agree with this. Stanzi didn't go back into the shotgun until he got a signal, which he flashed back to the sideline looking untterly confused b/c initially both he and A-ROB were frantically signalling to spike it.
 
For me personally, this is the end of it. Kirk owned up to his mistakes, now it's time to move on and (hopefully) learn from them.

Dean makes a good point that it might not have been Kirks fault for not spiking the ball. But as the person ultimately responsible, he's the one that has to take the blame. Not calling a punt safe on the other hand was absolutely his fault.

Kirk has made a withdraw from the goodwill bank. Here's hoping that this week he makes a big deposit.
 
Clark said:
For me personally, this is the end of it. Kirk owned up to his mistakes, now it's time to move on and (hopefully) learn from them.

Dean makes a good point that it might not have been Kirks fault for not spiking the ball. But as the person ultimately responsible, he's the one that has to take the blame. Not calling a punt safe on the other hand was absolutely his fault.

Kirk has made a withdraw from the goodwill bank. Here's hoping that this week he makes a big deposit.
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Nice post, I think he owned up to the punt call as well.

Can't get it back, best to just move forward and learn from it.
 
Clark said:
For me personally, this is the end of it. Kirk owned up to his mistakes, now it's time to move on and (hopefully) learn from them.

Dean makes a good point that it might not have been Kirks fault for not spiking the ball. But as the person ultimately responsible, he's the one that has to take the blame. Not calling a punt safe on the other hand was absolutely his fault.

Kirk has made a withdraw from the goodwill bank. Here's hoping that this week he makes a big deposit.
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True enough Clark. Kirk will/did take the blame, and he always will. I think, in part, this is why assistants love to coach for him in. Kirk and the coaches will make mistakes, the players will make mistakes. It is football, and the other team/coaches are trying to win too. Sometimes the other team gets the best of you....both as players and coaches.
 
bwsmoney said:
I think the bad part is that it really wasn't a tough call to make in most of our eyes ... and I'm not talking about with the advantage of hindsight either. It's hard to watch your team not execute something seemingly simple when they can execute the seemingly impossible.

Get 4-star recruits from out of state to come to IC? CHECK (how do they do that?)
Get a new O-Line to gel in time for the tough conference games? CHECK (very impressive!)
Continuously turn unheralded players into stars? CHECK (what are they feeding them?)
Watch out for a fake punt, when it is really the only way you can lose the game?
Spike the ball to save your last time-out for a game winning FG attempt?
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Replace our linebackers with defensive backs in obvious passing situations on the final drive of a game?
 
Clark said:
For me personally, this is the end of it. Kirk owned up to his mistakes, now it's time to move on and (hopefully) learn from them.

Dean makes a good point that it might not have been Kirks fault for not spiking the ball. But as the person ultimately responsible, he's the one that has to take the blame. Not calling a punt safe on the other hand was absolutely his fault.

Kirk has made a withdraw from the goodwill bank. Here's hoping that this week he makes a big deposit.
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I also am glad KF stood up on this one. Closure.
 
Hawke said:
That's called Bielema Ball. Totally without class or decency.
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That bull crap could've cost Clayborn the rest of the season, his draft status and his payday...and as mad as I was about the game, I'm more mad about that horse sh!t play...

I have nothing better going on...I should head to Madison, walk into practice, go right up to "Biels" and chop block his punk a$$...the ensuing beatdown would be worth it!

Edit: I'd also like to know where the F'n Line Judge was and what he was looking at at the time...
 
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HawkeyeShane said:
That bull crap could've cost Clayborn the rest of the season, his draft status and his payday...and as mad as I was about the game, I'm more mad about that horse sh!t play...

I have nothing better going on...I should head to Madison, walk into practice, go right up to "Biels" and chop block his punk a$$...the ensuing beatdown would be worth it!

Edit: I'd also like to know where the F'n Line Judge was and what he was looking at at the time...
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He should get used to the occasional chop block, since it will happen at the next level too. And its not like the game was won by a point or anything, and he had to try and contain Iowa's best player.
 
brett108 said:
He should get used to the occasional chop block, since it will happen at the next level too. And its not like the game was won by a point or anything, and he had to try and contain Iowa's best player.
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Quite possibly the dumbest crap ever spewed on this board...and that's sayin' something!

Congratulations...
 
It's called leadership.

You praise others in public and give credit to others even if it was "your idea" all along.

You rebuke in private and take the bullet publically, even if it wasn't "your idea."

Pretty simple concept, but practiced by so very few.
 
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