Even defense not making clutch plays

[uihawk82]

Most people probably wont remember the play right b4 jNWs winning TD pass. It was a 3rd and 8 play from about the 40-45 and the hawks were looking pass, #34 for the hawks was blitzing or jamming the A gap and yet jNW ran a delay and most of the Dee line was unaware, etc and the short running back made a great run.

That was a play that had to be made by the Dee, look run first and then pressure the QB. Damn

 

[dahlhawk]

Whoa, I've been pretty negative posting but this has nothing to do with the defense, they played awesome. Held them to less points than ND. Played a ton of minutes, and got the ball back time after time for the helpless offense. Parker and the defense played great. Which had to be awful for them to sit and watch that offense.

 

[Caddy]

Whoa, I've been pretty negative posting but this has nothing to do with the defense, they played awesome. Held them to less points than ND. Played a ton of minutes, and got the ball back time after time for the helpless offense. Parker and the defense played great. Which had to be awful for them to sit and watch that offense.

Gave up 200 yards on the ground to a true freshman running back, and the 14th ranked rushing attack in the conference. Missed tackle after missed tackle against a one dimensional, shit NW offense. They did not play well.

 

[ArvadaHawk]

Gave up 200 yards on the ground to a true freshman running back, and the 14th ranked rushing attack in the conference. Missed tackle after missed tackle against a one dimensional, shit NW offense. They did not play well.

the defense had a shutout into the 3rd qtr and allowed only 2 scores. that should always be a winning combination. this goes to what i just posted in a different thread, people don't realize how good a job phil parker does year in and year out because we lose so many low scoring games because kirk (and now brian) can't figure out that it's perfectly fine and even legal to have BOTH a really good defense and a really good offense.

I want phil parker as iowa's next HC and i want that next season and i was bob stoops as our new AD.

 

[uihawk82]

Whoa, I've been pretty negative posting but this has nothing to do with the defense, they played awesome. Held them to less points than ND. Played a ton of minutes, and got the ball back time after time for the helpless offense. Parker and the defense played great. Which had to be awful for them to sit and watch that offense.

the defense had a shutout into the 3rd qtr and allowed only 2 scores. that should always be a winning combination. this goes to what i just posted in a different thread, people don't realize how good a job phil parker does year in and year out because we lose so many low scoring games because kirk (and now brian) can't figure out that it's perfectly fine and even legal to have BOTH a really good defense and a really good offense.

I want phil parker as iowa's next HC and i want that next season and i was bob stoops as our new AD.

I agree overall that they played really well but I just meant that the defense had a more than usual breakdowns sort of like last week giving up 6 big plays in the pass defense

 

[NikeHawk21]

The defense gets tired when they are on the field the entire game due to offensive ineptitude. Happened last year at the end of the UW game when our defense was having another great day.

 

[ArvadaHawk]

I agree overall that they played really well but I just meant that the defense had a more than usual breakdowns sort of like last week giving up 6 big plays in the pass defense

you are not wrong, but i guess my point is that shit happens in games but if your team cannot score points, then the mistakes the defense makes are exaggerated. i find it amazing that phil parker can continually get his defense motivated to always, with a few exceptions, play with energy and passion. there was a report during the game that the sideline report heard the iowa defense talking to each other that it was up to them to make a play and that a turnover could be the difference. if i'm not mistaken, iowa got a turnover on jNW's next possession and one more after that.

 

[hawkinstl]

I agree overall that they played really well but I just meant that the defense had a more than usual breakdowns sort of like last week giving up 6 big plays in the pass defense

The defense played well in the first half, not so much the second half. Offense looked horrid the entire game. Special teams looked ok except for punting which is beyond me why a team at this level can't find a guy who can consistently punt the ball over 40 yards a game.

So out of 2 halves each for the O and the D, Iowa went 1 for 4. That won't cut it this time of year against better teams.

For Stanley to say after the game, we have to execute better, give me a friggin break. Fans have been hearing that same line for years now. This team needs a lot more than execution to win consistently.

It's pretty much time to blow this thing up starting with an AD who has the balls of Caitlyn Jenner.

Thankfully this is only a game and there are things in life bigger and much more important that a college football team. However, this crap has gotten old.

 

[ShockHawk22]

Does anyone know of the time of possession? Seemed like our defense was on the field all game. It’s impressive they only gave up 14

 

[ArvadaHawk]

The defense played well in the first half, not so much the second half. Offense looked horrid the entire game. Special teams looked ok except for punting which is beyond me why a team at this level can't find a guy who can consistently punt the ball over 40 yards a game.

So out of 2 halves each for the O and the D, Iowa went 1 for 4. That won't cut it this time of year against better teams.

For Stanley to say after the game, we have to execute better, give me a friggin break. Fans have been hearing that same line for years now. This team needs a lot more than execution to win consistently.

It's pretty much time to blow this thing up starting with an AD who has the balls of Caitlyn Jenner.

Thankfully this is only a game and there are things in life bigger and much more important that a college football team. However, this crap has gotten old.

regarding stanley, brady quinn made what i feel is an excellent observation. he noted a couple of times that stanley was coming off his primary target too soon and that target broke open just after stanley checked down. quinn's point was that he feels stanley's mental clock has sped up cuz he's always so rushed in the pocket. to me, that's why you need a good qb coach. that's on KOK, in my opinion cuz it's laughable to think brian would have any damn knowledge of how a qb operates.

 

[hawkinstl]

regarding stanley, brady quinn made what i feel is an excellent observation. he noted a couple of times that stanley was coming off his primary target too soon and that target broke open just after stanley checked down. quinn's point was that he feels stanley's mental clock has sped up cuz he's always so rushed in the pocket. to me, that's why you need a good qb coach. that's on KOK, in my opinion cuz it's laughable to think brian would have any damn knowledge of how a qb operates.

I agree with what Quinn said as well and replays showed several times what he was talking about. However, a good QB at this point of their career should know this already. I am sure Stanley is a great kid and has a strong arm. Just think the game at this level is way to fast for him and always will be.

 

[hawkfan2679]

regarding stanley, brady quinn made what i feel is an excellent observation. he noted a couple of times that stanley was coming off his primary target too soon and that target broke open just after stanley checked down. quinn's point was that he feels stanley's mental clock has sped up cuz he's always so rushed in the pocket. to me, that's why you need a good qb coach. that's on KOK, in my opinion cuz it's laughable to think brian would have any damn knowledge of how a qb operates.

I haven't yet seen the entire game (and unless I'm going to look at it from an analytical perspective, not sure why I would finished watching the full 4th quarter), but I would be interested to see if it was Stanley coming off too quick, if Stanley's feet in the pocket/drops were too inconsistent, or the receivers not getting into their stems/getting help up and messing with the timing of the route. I'm sure you know this but there is a point to why some routes have a 3 step drop, 3 step + hitch, 5 step, 5 step + hitch, etc. The routes are designed to come open at certain times within the drop. For example, in a 5 step drop, as soon as the QB's back foot hits the ground, he should be ready to throw to the intended receiver within the route concept unless it's taken away. In some cases this read is being done while the QB is making the drop and knows by the time his 5th step hits the ground, his intended receiver is covered and the throw will go to the 2nd progression (a good example of this might be a curl/flat combo...if the flat defender pass drops to get under the curl, the flat is drilled through the outside shoulder as soon as that 5th step hits the ground).

Another thing is that often times you'll know immediately that working one side of the field isn't going to work as soon as post-snap movement takes place within the defense. Take the aforementioned curl/flat concept...if you get 2 high safeties and corners who force inside releases with their eyes inside in a "sit" technique, you are going to want to go away from that side of the field because curl/flat is not a great cover 2 beater. You'd be best served to work your checkdown vs. making a dangerous throw into a coverage that is somewhat designed to stop your particular play.

What I feel like I do remember seeing in the first 3 quarters that I watched very hurriedly was that we threw a ton of short routes (other than one catch I remember, could Easley do less with an 8 reception day than what he did?) and in most cases it felt like that was the play we were trying to run (bubble screens come to mind).

 

[ArvadaHawk]

I haven't yet seen the entire game (and unless I'm going to look at it from an analytical perspective, not sure why I would finished watching the full 4th quarter), but I would be interested to see if it was Stanley coming off too quick, if Stanley's feet in the pocket/drops were too inconsistent, or the receivers not getting into their stems/getting help up and messing with the timing of the route. I'm sure you know this but there is a point to why some routes have a 3 step drop, 3 step + hitch, 5 step, 5 step + hitch, etc. The routes are designed to come open at certain times within the drop. For example, in a 5 step drop, as soon as the QB's back foot hits the ground, he should be ready to throw to the intended receiver within the route concept unless it's taken away. In some cases this read is being done while the QB is making the drop and knows by the time his 5th step hits the ground, his intended receiver is covered and the throw will go to the 2nd progression (a good example of this might be a curl/flat combo...if the flat defender pass drops to get under the curl, the flat is drilled through the outside shoulder as soon as that 5th step hits the ground).

Another thing is that often times you'll know immediately that working one side of the field isn't going to work as soon as post-snap movement takes place within the defense. Take the aforementioned curl/flat concept...if you get 2 high safeties and corners who force inside releases with their eyes inside in a "sit" technique, you are going to want to go away from that side of the field because curl/flat is not a great cover 2 beater. You'd be best served to work your checkdown vs. making a dangerous throw into a coverage that is somewhat designed to stop your particular play.

What I feel like I do remember seeing in the first 3 quarters that I watched very hurriedly was that we threw a ton of short routes (other than one catch I remember, could Easley do less with an 8 reception day than what he did?) and in most cases it felt like that was the play we were trying to run (bubble screens come to mind).

i am going to make this next statement without making a physical comparison. the replays i recall really reminded me of what we saw with Jake Rudock. the huge difference is that Stanley absolutely has the arm strength to throw deep, whereas, JR didn't. but that's the comparison i would make. to me that is a lot of things going wrong: 1) stanley mentally feeling he has to be in a hurry, 2) because his pocket protection is suspect, 3) OL coaching, and 4) qb coaching to address it.

and you're right, we went back to the greg davis offense. i smell kirk's hand in that because those are just like runs.

 

[hawkinarkansas]

Best I see it, Iowa has 3 players who I would consider clutch and trust when needed, two of them receive limited snaps, Fant/Eppy with the 3rd being Hockenson.

Stanley is the least ‘clutch’ play caller I have seen in a long time, dynamic arm, zero ability to will his team to victory. Most of everyone else, players filling a role.

 

[NEIChawk]

It was too cold outside

 

[peerok]

Does anyone know of the time of possession? Seemed like our defense was on the field all game. It’s impressive they only gave up 14

Was listening to Dolph and Eddie on the radio. I remember in the fourth quarter they said time of possession was about even. People always use the excuse that the defense gets tired because they're always on the field. Sorry, but Northwesterns defense didn't seem to get tired late in the game, Iowa's defense shouldn't have been any more tired than Northwestern. Plus, we have more depth on the d-line than ever before.

I'm not defending the lack of offense, but the defense doesn't always get it done either.

 

[MoseSchrute]

Our defense usually plays well enough to win. Fourteen points should be low enough to overcome for any competent offensive staff. But we haven't had that at Iowa for a very long time.