Did the ball on Gray's go ahead touchdown run actaully break the plane?

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Looking at some of the video does the ball actually break the plane? His body does but he has the ball outside of this body and looks to go out of bounds before it breaks. Thoughts?
 
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I noticed this too and said something to my brother, he said it doesn't matter though. I'm not to sure on the rule.
 
The ball doesn't have to be inside of the pylon. The goal line extends out of bounds beyond the pylon. As long as the ball breaks that plane before any part of the player's body touches out of bounds, then it's a touchdown.

Gray's 4th down run was a touchdown.
 
One play that really stood out to me was when the hawks were up 11 in the 4th quarter and the goophers had the ball around their own 35 yard line. It was fourth and one yard and Gray kept it on a qb sneak. The goofers offensive line got zero push and gray clearly did not gain an inch. The ref made a terrible spot which allowed them to get the first down.

If the ref spots the ball correctly iowa gets the ball back and probably goes on to score and win the game.
 
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IowaBanker said:
The ball doesn't have to be inside of the pylon. The goal line extends out of bounds beyond the pylon. As long as the ball breaks that plane before any part of the player's body touches out of bounds, then it's a touchdown.

Gray's 4th down run was a touchdown.
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I'm a little confused on this rule then... So if he were to dive out of bounds and the ball where to cross the extended invisible plane (while his body is still in the air) it is a touchdown? I thought the ball had to be inside the pylon? Obviously this isn't what Gray did(and I think he got the TD), but I'm just curious about this rule now that you said that.:D
 
CGHawk said:
I'm a little confused on this rule then... So if he were to dive out of bounds and the ball where to cross the extended invisible plane (while his body is still in the air) it is a touchdown? I thought the ball had to be inside the pylon? Obviously this isn't what Gray did(and I think he got the TD), but I'm just curious about this rule now that you said that.:D
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The ball has to be inside the pylon is the player is in the air and never again touches the ground in bounds. It can be outside the pylon if the player's body is touching in bounds inside the pylon, as was the case with the Gray TD.
 
thejumper5 said:
The ball has to be inside the pylon is the player is in the air and never again touches the ground in bounds. It can be outside the pylon if the player's body is touching in bounds inside the pylon, as was the case with the Gray TD.
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Ahh oh that is what I thought.

Thanks for the clarification!
 
CardinalHawk007 said:
One play that really stood out to me was when the hawks were up 11 in the 4th quarter and the goophers had the ball around their own 35 yard line. It was fourth and one yard and Gray kept it on a qb sneak. The goofers offensive line got zero push and gray clearly did not gain an inch. The ref made a terrible spot which allowed them to get the first down.

If the ref spots the ball correctly iowa gets the ball back and probably goes on to score and win the game.
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Yes, you are correct sir.
 
Plus, several of the Gopher's kick team were offsides on the onsides kick. But then offsides doesn't get called a lot on kickoffs in general.
 
It shouldn't have come down to any ONE of these plays described above. Saturday was embarrassingly disappointing. This is getting really old, really fast...
 
CardinalHawk007 said:
One play that really stood out to me was when the hawks were up 11 in the 4th quarter and the goophers had the ball around their own 35 yard line. It was fourth and one yard and Gray kept it on a qb sneak. The goofers offensive line got zero push and gray clearly did not gain an inch. The ref made a terrible spot which allowed them to get the first down.

If the ref spots the ball correctly iowa gets the ball back and probably goes on to score and win the game.
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HerkeyHawk said:
It shouldn't have come down to any ONE of these plays described above. Saturday was embarrassingly disappointing. This is getting really old, really fast...
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I remember thinking on that play that was a really generous spot to Minny, and probably the wrong one. But the game is played with decisions, good and bad, some beneficial, some costly. As Herkey says, the game never should have come down to a matter of a bad spot or a question of whether the ball crossed the plane. Save for Coker, this game was lost on occasional bad coaching and poor play.
 
CGHawk said:
I'm a little confused on this rule then... So if he were to dive out of bounds and the ball where to cross the extended invisible plane (while his body is still in the air) it is a touchdown? I thought the ball had to be inside the pylon? Obviously this isn't what Gray did(and I think he got the TD), but I'm just curious about this rule now that you said that.:D
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Ricky Watters says yes, obviously.
 
tweeterhawk said:
I remember thinking on that play that was a really generous spot to Minny, and probably the wrong one. But the game is played with decisions, good and bad, some beneficial, some costly. As Herkey says, the game never should have come down to a matter of a bad spot or a question of whether the ball crossed the plane. Save for Coker, this game was lost on occasional bad coaching and poor play.
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The spot of the ball was horrible! When the play happened I thought they were stopped short and I so I wasn't even paying attention the next minute or so and then all of the sudden I see Minnesota with the ball. If I remember correctly it seemed like the announcers first reaction was that he was stopped short.
 
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