Dear KF Jucos help you win!

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Hawkcrush

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Now I am not going to take a ton of time to break it all down, but lets make a short list of Jucos and show how, in the past, they have helped Iowa succeed. Given the fact that there is always attrition in CFB it is necessary at times to offset losses with gains--ie you lose a receiver (Willies) so you gain a -you name the position. So you lose a receiver who is 20 years old-- and in the same cycle try to replace him with a 17-18 year old, instead of replacing them with someone who would be in the same cycle and approximate age and potential of readiness. Short story long here, this year could have been avoided by bringing in some Jucos to shore up losses in the recent past, due to graduation or attrition. Iowa;s valley's can be managed better a 12-0 season can and should be followed up by at worst an 8-4 record. Our lack of depth a T,.E. ( A serous position of use at Iowa) is a total lack of management in recruitment. You don't have to go all ISU basketball on things, but taking JUCO kids appears to be a safer bet than recruiting a H.S. kid. Especailly if you include tha accademic side of things with sudent retention #'s and such, the downside is you only get them for 2 or 3 years, but in reality a recruit generally only seeds that much playing time at Iowa anyway. Now I am sure there have been some misses, but not nearly as many as tradtional recruits.

List off top of head Jucos (Notice the level of succes they have had at Iowa)

Brad Banks
C.J. Jones
Shonn Greene *= Went to JC at some Point
Marshall Yanda
Bryon Gattas
Sean Prater*
Clinton Solomon*
Daimon Powell
 
Kirk Ferentz doesn't care about winning. Kirk Ferentz' cares about one thing: doing things Kirk Ferentz' way. If winning "happens to happen," it's a nice externality, but he would rather go 0-12 and pull all of the strings with his foot on the throat of this program than do something that undermines his perception of control, like playing a Juco stud. Until, of course, the contract year inevitably comes along and KF realizes that he needs to make slight marginal adjustment to win (but only the slightest, and even then he hates it because he's "losing control") - to benefit himself. Kirk Ferentz does not care about winning, Kirk Ferentz has never cared about winning, and Kirk Ferentz will never care about winning in the future unless it benefits Kirk Ferentz. It's all about him.
 
Dear KF lots-of-things help you win!

JUCO's? Sure, why not?

But what about (in no particular order):
Not being so predictable
Putting your best athletes on the field
Recognizing your team's strengths and scheming to maximize them
Recognizing your team's weaknesses and scheming to minimize them
Being aggressive / playing to win / showing your team you have confidence in them
Making in-game adjustments as needed to help get your team going / slow the opponent
Running a fun / high-energy program complete with pep-talks to get the players motivated
Throwing the ball downfield on a regular basis to keep the defense honest
many more things

Lots of things can help win, and a good coach tries them all- everything he does is about making the team better. KF? As STL said, he's gonna do his thing and hope it works out.
 
Kirk's way has gotten Iowa a few amazing seasons, a lot of mediocre ones, and a couple of horrible ones. But most of all, it has gotten him a lifetime contract worth more than most coaches get. So why would he change? That's the bottom line.
 
This could be an interesting case study though--the amount of success iowa has had in end of season outcomes, and the production from Jucos on those teams. Also, how you can't fill a position of need with an unrelated need. How about having 5 kickers and almost 1 known tight end.
 
We used to compete when we were weak at wide receiver because we had a good offensive line and could run the ball and especially when we used tight ends in the passing game. We cranked out tight ends as well as anybody in the country. Greg Davis came and decided the tight end should be a statue.
 
DJL said:
Kirk's way has gotten Iowa a few amazing seasons, a lot of mediocre ones, and a couple of horrible ones. But most of all, it has gotten him a lifetime contract worth more than most coaches get. So why would he change? That's the bottom line.
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I would think because he WANTS TO WIN. Sorry, I forgot it's Kurt...or I'm Kurt.
 
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docholihawk said:
We used to compete when we were weak at wide receiver because we had a good offensive line and could run the ball and especially when we used tight ends in the passing game. We cranked out tight ends as well as anybody in the country. Greg Davis came and decided the tight end should be a statue.
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Under Davis we're getting better and better athletes at receiver and either KF doesn't like their attitude or the OLine can't block for CJ long enough for a pass downfield.

How about before giving up on 'the Davis experiment' we scrutinize the OLine/run coordinator's (Brian's) performance?? Of course, we can always go back to the TE being the most athletic receiver on the field but, other than you, do we really wanna?
 
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DJL said:
he does want to win, but he thinks his way is the only way to win at Iowa. I truly believe he thinks things will get worse not better if he changes.
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Ah. So did Jim Jones...think if he changes, things would get worse. And yes, some Hawkeye fans have drunk the kool aid.
 
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