Colvin

[DeputyHawk]

Any idea if we are still after him or if he has signed elsewhere?

 

[spliff45]

I read elsewhere that he's eliminated Iowa. I believe he's looking at ASU, West Virginia, and Miami.

 

[Hawk4Life76]

I don't think Iowa made his final 3-4....and I'm completely fine with that.

 

[DeputyHawk]

Ok thanks.

 

[ajk4st8]

Cartwright and Payne are better than Colvin.

 

[Wassabbe]

Cartwright and Payne are better than Colvin.

No. Payne isn't in his league.

 

[KMGHawk]

No. Payne isn't in his league.

Payne freshman year- 8.7 points per game 3.0 rebounds 3.8 assists

Colvin freshman year-3.0 points per game 1.1 rebounds 1.9 assists



Payne shooting- 37% from the field - 3pointers 32% -- 64% free throws

Colvin shooting- 28% from the field - 3 pointers 19% -- 52% free throws.




You are correct they are NOT in the same league.

 

[IAJay]

Payne freshman year- 8.7 points per game 3.0 rebounds 3.8 assists

Colvin freshman year-3.0 points per game 1.1 rebounds 1.9 assists



Payne shooting- 37% from the field - 3pointers 32% -- 64% free throws

Colvin shooting- 28% from the field - 3 pointers 19% -- 52% free throws.




You are correct they are NOT in the same league.

You understand why Payne looks so much better on paper right?

 

[KMGHawk]

You understand why Payne looks so much better on paper right?

Oh please, enlighten me.

 

[Gohawks123]

We need better recruits than a head case like Chris Colvin anyways.

 

[HawkPhreek]

We need better recruits than a head case like Chris Colvin anyways.

Ding Ding Ding.

 

[HawkMD2007]

Transfer U had the opportunity to keep Colvin but Hoiberg decided he was not worth the risk. If White, Allen and Lucious are worth the risk but Colvin isn't that should tell you something.

 

[Enginerd]

Colvin is waaaaay more talented than Payne is. His numbers are poor b/c he didn't get a lot of PT. He didn't like to play the type of ball that Mac wanted and had a bit of an attitude problem.

 

[hawkeyescott]

Payne freshman year- 8.7 points per game 3.0 rebounds 3.8 assists

Colvin freshman year-3.0 points per game 1.1 rebounds 1.9 assists



Payne shooting- 37% from the field - 3pointers 32% -- 64% free throws

Colvin shooting- 28% from the field - 3 pointers 19% -- 52% free throws.




You are correct they are NOT in the same league.

Maybe this stat has something to do with why those stats are so one sided:

Payne: 33.2 minutes played a game
Colvin: 9.7 minutes played a game

 

[DaBears]

Payne freshman year- 8.7 points per game 3.0 rebounds 3.8 assists

Colvin freshman year-3.0 points per game 1.1 rebounds 1.9 assists



Payne shooting- 37% from the field - 3pointers 32% -- 64% free throws

Colvin shooting- 28% from the field - 3 pointers 19% -- 52% free throws.




You are correct they are NOT in the same league.

You left out the most important stat.. MINUTES PER GAME! Heck even add games played. If I remember correctly, Colvin had to sit out 5 or so games.

For a fair assessment, multiple Colvin's numbers by 3(Payne played 3 times as many mins) and there's your comparable stats.

Colvin - 9 ppg, 3.3 rebounds and 5.7 assists.

 

[Enginerd]

There was no other PG for Payne to compete for playing time against. Colvin had a borderline NBA talent of Diante Garrett ahead of him.

 

[IAJay]

Oh please, enlighten me.

Read the rest of the thread. They all did a good job of explaining this.

 

[hawkeyecub]

You are correct that Payne had the large advantage in minutes skewing the per game stats. However you should look at how poorly Colvin shot last year. He was 19% from 3, 30% from 2 and 52% from the free throw line. He also had a ridiculously high turnover rate. His offensive rating was about as bad as you can get. He was truly awful offensively.

 

[SheagleHawk]

Colvin committed to ASU.

 

[jacknicholson]

It might be an ominous sign for the school who signs the Mayor's rejects or leftovers.