Can anyone tell me what our offense is supposed to look like?

H

hawkeye12345

Well-Known Member
Seriously. This has been thrown out there before and all that is discussed is the 'system' or how Butler was successful in the past. Can anyone please tell me what in the he!! we are supposed to be running on the offensive side of the ball? All I see is PG dribbling around 30' from the basket for a while with some sort of screen attempted (on ball only) and then we try and pass to another player that is standing about 25' from the hoop.

FYI - I like our defense not that it matters much since we can't score points.
 
hawkeye12345 said:
Seriously. This has been thrown out there before and all that is discussed is the 'system' or how Butler was successful in the past. Can anyone please tell me what in the he!! we are supposed to be running on the offensive side of the ball? All I see is PG dribbling around 30' from the basket for a while with some sort of screen attempted (on ball only) and then we try and pass to another player that is standing about 25' from the hoop.

FYI - I like our defense not that it matters much since we can't score points.
Click to expand...
Hawk12345. We have yet to see what this offense looks like when run properly. In year 3 we still don't have the players to properly run it yet. Year 4 will be much better.. Remember!!:)
 
2good2btru said:
dribble around with head down, jump pass and heave up 3, hope for best.
Click to expand...

I notice that we have 2 or 3 people in the same area. Cully can just hand it off. I told my buddy who is watching the game with me that we should try a DRAW play.. maybe we can fool them.. :D
 
This year has been quite a year...I went from having 0 faith in Lick and this team....to having a lot of hope and optimisim after that week with OSU and MSU being close....I'm back to 0 hope...I have NO confidence that Lick is going to get it done...if we have ANY more transfers Barta has to cut his losses NOW. If no transfers next year should be his last.
 
We are playing on the road and this team is not going to win many games on the road.

Probably won't win many games on the road next year either.

When we play more athletic teams we simply do not have an inside game. We looked great against NW but NW and Iowa matched up nicely against each other talent wise. For instance, when was the last time you saw 10 white players on the court at the same time. Athletically both teams were about the same so Iowa could go inside.

In this game, we again cannot stay with Purdue's guards man to man and the difference is quite noticeable. Purdue has forced Iowa another three or four steps further back than what Iowa is used to. Iowa is again shooting 3s and they are deeper 3's which just lowers our percentages. With the quicker Purdue guards and the tougher defense, we are making more turnovers and you can see Payne having more problems with ball handling. We can do nothing inside because Purdue is much more aggressive and they have better ball players. Iowa just had a nice fast break opportunity and instead of taking it and scoring or getting fouled, which is usually what the opposing team will do, Iowa pulled and then threw the ball away. THAT is Lick ball at it's best. Lickliter has taken the naturalness of bb away from these guys so that they instead play keepaway, even though they are getting their heads handed to them. Lickliter knows ONE way to play with no adjustment whatsoever so when they start getting the hell beat out of them, he does nothing to try to change things...nothing whatsoever, doesn't change defense, offense, NOTHING...just lets them flounder. That people is NOT coaching.

In other words, Iowa's progress is limited to beating the bottom feeders like Iowa. We have a long long ways to go before we begin to beat the Purdue's, MSUs, Wisky's, Illinois, and so on. Oh, we might upset one of them in the next couple of years but to think that we might actually beat them on a regular basis is nothing but a pipe dream. It is games like this that shows the true disparity between programs.
 
You should be thankful that there is a shot clock....otherwise we would be running the four corners :)
 
Do we not do off ball screens?????? and if you screen on ball.. why don't we cut off the screener a little sharper rather than head away from the hoop....
 
re-watch the first twelve minutes and imagine half of those shots going in instead of 25%. that's the idea-- quick ball movement and reversal, open 15-20 footers, drive to the rim when the defense is too tight on the ball, and feed the ball inside on mismatches.
 
I watched Butler play last week and it is clear that coach Stevens is a poor student of the game. Their offense does not look anything like what the old master of the game and former COY is running at Iowa.
 
olivecourt said:
re-watch the first twelve minutes and imagine half of those shots going in instead of 25%. that's the idea-- quick ball movement and reversal, open 15-20 footers, drive to the rim when the defense is too tight on the ball, and feed the ball inside on mismatches.
Click to expand...

At the end of the first 12 minutes of this game we were losing 20-12. If that is what our offense is going to look like in the future then we are going to be in trouble for a long time to come.
 
olivecourt said:
re-watch the first twelve minutes and imagine half of those shots going in instead of 25%. that's the idea-- quick ball movement and reversal, open 15-20 footers, drive to the rim when the defense is too tight on the ball, and feed the ball inside on mismatches.
Click to expand...
Won't we have to imagine against 7 other teams besides NW, PSU, and Indiana?

Could the Beatles even Imagine that?
 
in the first 12 minutes we handled the ball reasonably well and got a variety of open looks from 3, from 12-15 feet, and around the rim. that's what an offensive system is supposed to do... but we didn't convert the opportunities. there's no system of x's and o's that can make up for shooting like we did today. and it was not "live by the three, die by the three".... they couldn't cash in on open looks from anywhere on the floor when it mattered.

@ ddthompson: the question was what the offense is supposed to look like... i think we can all agree that takes quite a bit of imagination to envision it, especially against a team like purdue ;)
 
Last edited:
What are you talking about? In the first 5 minutes of the game we were 2-5 from the field (40%) including 0-1 from 3 point land. We were losing 10-7.

In the next 5 minutes we were 2-6 (33%) including 1-4 from 3 point land and we were losing 18-12. We shot 2 FGs from inside the arc during this 5 minute stretch.

The next 5 minute stretch we were 1-9 (11%) including 1-5 from 3 point land. There was 1 official TV timeout called but absolutely no TOs called by our coach. WTF?

During the final 5 minutes we were 0-2...that's right, we shot 2 frickin FGs in the final 5 minutes of the 1st half...guess how many TOs our coach decided to use? Two. And he called one of them with :33 remaining and we didn't get squat.

Cole picked up his 2nd foul at the 8:50 mark and he shouldn't have played the rest of the half but instead, he picks up his 3rd foul of the 1st half with 5:20 to go. WTF? Is this Licks first coaching experience? You've got Brommer & Cougill on the bench..it's not like we have zero depth at C or as I like to think of it TG for tall guard.

Let's see what else? Oh yeah. Lick for whatever God knows why reason gets T'ed up after WE MAKE A MOTHER F'IN BASKET. How many times are you going to see that outside of the 3 Stooges or Harlem Globetrotters (2nd H GT'ers reference by the way).
 
bobber said:
You should be thankful that there is a shot clock....otherwise we would be running the four corners :)
Click to expand...

Honest to God without a shot clock we would hold the ball near mid-court the entire half, then jack up a 30-footer with 2 seconds left. That way if the other team hadn't yet touched the ball or at least scored more than 2 points we would have a chance of winning.

That is about as innovative as this offense is.
 
Glorified game of "Keep-a-way". That pretty much sums up our offense. Limit possessions, slow the game down to a snail's pace, and try to keep the game close. That's the philosophy.
 
koolhandlick said:
I watched Butler play last week and it is clear that coach Stevens is a poor student of the game. Their offense does not look anything like what the old master of the game and former COY is running at Iowa.
Click to expand...

:)

But I agree, we haven't looked like Butler yet.
 
You must log in or register to reply here.

Latest posts

Share this page

Top