Brian Thompson

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Saw he was an Iowa guy originally from the Webster City area.

Do I think people should be murdered? No. After seeing interviews with him do I feel real bad about what happened? Also no.

After seeing interviews of him and seeing the things he oversaw being implemented he guy was a definite scumbag, but shouldn't have been killed. But I also have no sympathy for a person who had no sympathy for others in any way. I'm indifferent and kind I feel, meh about this. A couple other things...

1) Me being indifferent and having no feelings about the guy being offed doesn't make me a supporter of murder. Those two things are not mutually inclusive.

2) To any people here who may be outraged over this, show me evidence of massive manhunts that have occurred in NYC for average Joes who get murdered there all the time please. Why does this guy warrant all hands on deck when no one else gets those hands on deck? Was this guy's life worth more than others because he's an important businessman? I'd love to hear the copium justification someone might have as to why this dude is worth more. If anything, he had a better life than anyone here and his behavior was on the low end of what should warrant a response.

3) LOTS of people who faithfully paid insurance premiums every month are dead, died earlier than they could have, and have lower qualities of life because of policies he signed off on to make more profit for his shareholders.

There are lots of folks I'm seeing online who feel this is going to start some kind of revolt among the masses. Let's be real here. The only thing this is going to do is create huge security teams for insurance execs.
 
I've always thought this. Why is one person's life more valuable than others just because they're rich. I will say, though, that if they don't go after this guy, it may "inspire" others to execute this type of person in this manner and feel like they can escape. However, if I had some average Joe relative that was killed on the same day and the cops didn't give his/her case the same effort, I can't tell you what I'd do.

As for the insurance aspect, I couldn't agree more, especially for his company. They deny 1/3 of submitted claims. Why people would stick with that, I have no idea. It makes you wonder if this had anything to do with it or what the heck the motive was. I noticed that the first shot was to the leg, mafia style.

I will say that he and I are the same age and grew up a few miles from him but went do different schools. Competed against him in sports. He was a pretty good guy back then.
 
I've always thought this. Why is one person's life more valuable than others just because they're rich. I will say, though, that if they don't go after this guy, it may "inspire" others to execute this type of person in this manner and feel like they can escape. However, if I had some average Joe relative that was killed on the same day and the cops didn't give his/her case the same effort, I can't tell you what I'd do.

As for the insurance aspect, I couldn't agree more, especially for his company. They deny 1/3 of submitted claims. Why people would stick with that, I have no idea. It makes you wonder if this had anything to do with it or what the heck the motive was. I noticed that the first shot was to the leg, mafia style.

I will say that he and I are the same age and grew up a few miles from him but went do different schools. Competed against him in sports. He was a pretty good guy back then.
We switched insurers where I worked after the company we buy it from went from BCBS to UHC. It lasted a year and our owners said no way. We asked our provider to get us a BCBS plan again and they said nope. I'm guessing they had an exclusivity agreement with UHC. So we went and found a different one. For clarity I never knew who this guy was until this happened, just that our insurance became a pain in the ass. When almost no one other than very, very rich people mourn your murder it says something, though.

After I read about some of the really horrible policies this guy has put into place it started to become pretty apparent to me that the world isn't going to miss this guy much. Are they all his ideas? Pretty sure the ideas come from his underlings. Does he make the final approval to squeeze as much profit as possible for his shareholders at the expense of other people's health and lives? Yeah.
 
Well said and completely agree with both of you. If you do bad things to people and their families and then something happens to you in return, I have zero sympathy for you or anyone else that had a part of it. Murder isn't the answer but like you both said, why is he more important than the people he harmed.

I also have been insured by both companies and UHC always had so many extra hoops for you to jump through to get a claim approved. My son sprains his ankle or wrist at school and they needed every damn detail.
 
I will say, though, that if they don't go after this guy, it may "inspire" others to execute this type of person in this manner and feel like they can escape.
I agree, and right or wrong that indicates a big, big problem. Hopefully there's enough backlash against UHC and their claim denials that they change things. It sure seems so right now anyway with the stuff going around on social media. Could it be a wake-up call to some employers that offer UHC plans? Hope so. Could it also be something that brings the claim denial mess to the spotlight to the point where legislation happens? Hope so.

If this guy getting popped ends up being what it took to make it happen, then the question people need to ask themselves is to what degree did the ends justify the means? If it saved say 10,000 lives a year because of the shock value, was it worth a guy who had the easiest life possible, lived in ultimate comfort, and never had a want in his entire adult life dying without suffering? Crazy questions.

If we're being honest, Thompson had an easier life than someone who got chemo denied, missed their kids' growing up, and died in pain and full of morphine. Thompson never saw it coming, it was just a loud pop and 30 secs later lights out. This is a quandary in some ways.
 
One thing I do know for sure is there's never been a murder in history with such a large pool of suspects lol.

And another thing, with all the technology available to police and the FBI in 2024, there's a reason this dude hasn't been caught yet. I'm 100% sure he will be, but the NYPD ain't gettin' much help from the public on this one, boys. This dude is Robin Hood to a whole lot of people.
 
Update, they found a full face video still of the guy in an NYC hostel. The jig is up it would appear. Obviously hundreds of people know the guy and someone's going to identify him if they haven't already. Now to see if they actually find him or if he's dead somewhere.
 
NYC experienced 386 murders in 2023.Slightly over one daily.
The difference between Thompson and the others is the media coverage.
 
On my internet provider news stream, article 1 is the full face photo of the perp in NY. 2nd article is a news feature about Anthem BCBS is going to put time limits on anesthesia during operations and if the limit is exceeded, claim could be denied (??).

Talk about bad timing award……

If I was under the knife and woke up mid operation because my insurance carrier arbitrarily decided I had enough anesthesia, i think my first stop after release from the hospital would be a good lawyer!
 
On my internet provider news stream, article 1 is the full face photo of the perp in NY. 2nd article is a news feature about Anthem BCBS is going to put time limits on anesthesia during operations and if the limit is exceeded, claim could be denied (??).

Talk about bad timing award……

If I was under the knife and woke up mid operation because my insurance carrier arbitrarily decided I had enough anesthesia, i think my first stop after release from the hospital would be a good lawyer!
A doctor wont ever knowingly not give enough anesthesia, what will happen is after you go over a certain time limit your insurance doesn't pay for that portion.

And we all know the hospital isn't without blame too. They have no problem suing you when you can't pay the extra $8,392.77. :)
 
A doctor wont ever knowingly not give enough anesthesia, what will happen is after you go over a certain time limit your insurance doesn't pay for that portion.

And we all know the hospital isn't without blame too. They have no problem suing you when you can't pay the extra $8,392.77. :)
The article wasnt clear on the “denial” so I expect it would be for the excess time only. But, unfortunately, you are spot on about who will end up holding the bag……..

It is all about how to ensure the policyholder will pay more (even when the so-called policy has “out of pocket maximums”).

Is it so hard the believe why people despise the health insurance industry? When a CEO makes 10 million a year at our expense, many of us on fixed incomes?

Research Thompson. He was under investigation by the DOJ for insider trading. As if $10 million isn’t enough.
 
When there is a massive profit motive in health insurance, bad people will do bad things. Insurance companies generally don't provide health care, but they dictate what health care is provided in many cases. And these folks take a nice chunk of cash to manage all of this. We're always convinced that the "invisible hand" is doing it's magic, but when people can be harmed, should health care be treated just like any other commodity? We get what we get when we have systems like this.

The best buildings in midwestern cities are either banking or insurance buildings. :)
 
The article wasnt clear on the “denial” so I expect it would be for the excess time only. But, unfortunately, you are spot on about who will end up holding the bag……..

It is all about how to ensure the policyholder will pay more (even when the so-called policy has “out of pocket maximums”).

Is it so hard the believe why people despise the health insurance industry? When a CEO makes 10 million a year at our expense, many of us on fixed incomes?

Research Thompson. He was under investigation by the DOJ for insider trading. As if $10 million isn’t enough.
He was also known as an "innovator" in that field by being the first company to use AI to develop algorithms for claims evaluation (read: denials). Instead of a person evaluating them individually, they cut costs by using computers to do it faster and sniffed out more claims to be deny that might have slipped through the cracks of humans.
 
As an old, experienced guy and probably a late sixties “liberal”, my greatest disappointments on the political scene are the lack of Medicare for all, the careless lack of support of social security, the greed of the drug companies, the failure to react to climate change, and the conversion to oligarchy. Obviously, insurance companies in the medical realm are soulless blood suckers.
 
As an old, experienced guy and probably a late sixties “liberal”, my greatest disappointments on the political scene are the lack of Medicare for all, the careless lack of support of social security, the greed of the drug companies, the failure to react to climate change, and the conversion to oligarchy. Obviously, insurance companies in the medical realm are soulless blood suckers.
Amen, brother.
 
As an old, experienced guy and probably a late sixties “liberal”, my greatest disappointments on the political scene are the lack of Medicare for all, the careless lack of support of social security, the greed of the drug companies, the failure to react to climate change, and the conversion to oligarchy. Obviously, insurance companies in the medical realm are soulless blood suckers.
I’m guessing like a lot of people here you don’t condone a murder, but also don’t have a lot of sadness over this deal?

I can’t make myself feel any other way about it. Kind of a lose/lose maybe. I’d be lying to you guys if I said I thought the world was a better place with this guy in it. But it’s not up to me to decide who's living in it, so my emotions kind of cancel out.
 
A doctor wont ever knowingly not give enough anesthesia, what will happen is after you go over a certain time limit your insurance doesn't pay for that portion.

And we all know the hospital isn't without blame too. They have no problem suing you when you can't pay the extra $8,392.77. :)
Perhaps they will wake patients during the procedure.
Inform them that their anesthesia benefit has maxed out.
And ask for a credit card if one wants to continue receiving anesthesia.
 

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