I saw somebody's post in the lineup thread but carried the info over here about what Gesell and Olaseni have been doing over a four game span. Though those are only for three of those four games (minus the one where we were grabbed, hammered all game, some called, some weren't). Last 3 minus horrific MSU outing: 11.3, PPG 3.3 AST, a board and 1.3 STL. 13-26 FG, 3-10 3pt, 8-12 FT. Fine, the FT was using the MSU instead of Michigan where he shot 0-0 FT. Point is he's shooting, he's shooting everything, and he's throwing up triple-counting stats that are exceptionally Point Guardy.
Doubt these are off Horner or Oliver in their fresh or soph years. K Horner's Soph year was nuts-awesome but otherwise a mirror, also with Boyd (Horner's teammate) for the first two. Also Horner played 35 and 37 MPG those years. Gesell 22.5 now from 25.1 as a frosh. Rate stats don't translate with MPG but 3.something ASSISTS looks mighty great with extra time factored on. I checked, it's 18.5 PPG and 5.4 AST with 2.2 STL if with Horner's 37 MPG. Oliver averaged 4.2-4.8 APG in his career. Same scoring arch with a very interesting parallel; 78 FT became 71.something as a Soph. Iowa has had Woolridge, BJ, Deano, Horner, Marble, Boyd, even the Lickliter teams having Peterson and Freeman, and all since '95. 18-19 years means 4-5 great PG, but we had that before Alford was gone. Lick's Peterson had 10.6 and 4.2 with excellent shooting lines in two years, he totally counts. Fran's Cartwright had 11-6 before plummeting to 6.0-4.8 for Marble to take over 11.5-3.6 in under 30 MPG. And no, I'd never forget Leslie because he's a scoring PG, as was Boyd. As ugly as Peterson and Cartwright memories are, they had excellent AST numbers with ZERO scoring targets.
One thing Iowa has had only twice before was the four year PG. Oliver then Horner. Andre, BJ and of course, Lester THE cream. Out of all these great PG only BJ and Lester were drafted, 18th and 10th overall, respectively. Andre was a Nebraska transfer, Leslie, Bryce, also transfers. Mike Gesell is going to be what only Oliver and Horner have been since...who, after Oliver and Horner as four year starters?
What's my point to all this PG stuff? None, really. I just got carried away like you thought. But it does give you some names to understand what company he's in and what company he'll soon be joining. I think his 3-pt. shot will improve a ton as well as FT, so he'll score more than Dean-O. Easily the best Hawks teams as enjoyed by Lester, BJ, Woolridge, Oliver and Horner, so Gesell won't be any different. And what about the D on this kid? Seriously?? Horner rebounded, Oliver ran boring offenses, Gesell defends.
And again, the two PG he happens to resemble the most are the other two four year starters in Iowa's past quarter of a century. Expect Oliver who can shoot or Horner who really can't as well. And expect the Sophomore versions of those two beginning now, CHA against Michigan. Give 'em Horniver!
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Oh, but if it's OLASENI who shows this is the norm and not a hot streak? 14.3 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 1 APG, 13-18 72% FG 15-18 85% FT 2 BPG. Oh, we're again tossing out MSU. Something about that game was really grabby, fouly and very not useful for this type of thing. Well, the FT would've been cool. But I'll let you imagine what old Gabe O. would have if translated to 30+ minutes.
Right now he's a scoring, rebounding defensive virtuoso who has the longest wingspan since Reiner accidentally tore of JR Koch's arms. Yes, THAT is how far I need to go to think of something like this. But, alas, Centers aren't that good just because you take them from Britain and give them a ball.
Or are they? Hand a big guy a ball and he'll seriously get THIS good in 3 years? With an Austin Powers-Eric Idle crossed with Shaq accent. All his current numbers have been are THAT^ if you translated his numbers to what a normal starting C plays, minutes-wise.
We knew we'd be betting one or the other with last year's incoming class. Didn't know it would come like this and it might not. I totally answered Gesell is the one who's for real with Olaseni being hot, though totally capable of 12-8-2 pts-reb-blk in spare minutes. I won't tangent Iowa greats at Center, but yeah, if this is the real Slim Shady he'll be better than almost all of them, Earl and those 80's and 60's big guys, correct? With those numbers extrapolated?
As real as Jeff Horner and Dean Oliver were. Oh yeah, we're back to the guy who runs things again. Clemmons best backup since Boyd, Leslie and Glasper and only soph. Marble able to dime on a dime. Weather this storm, start passing again, rebounding and running and playing D, then turn it into offense. 2 PG in the starting lineup to do that with. You go on forever if you think Olaseni or both keep this up. If you say neither, get the stick out of your Asberger's-sounding ear.
Doubt these are off Horner or Oliver in their fresh or soph years. K Horner's Soph year was nuts-awesome but otherwise a mirror, also with Boyd (Horner's teammate) for the first two. Also Horner played 35 and 37 MPG those years. Gesell 22.5 now from 25.1 as a frosh. Rate stats don't translate with MPG but 3.something ASSISTS looks mighty great with extra time factored on. I checked, it's 18.5 PPG and 5.4 AST with 2.2 STL if with Horner's 37 MPG. Oliver averaged 4.2-4.8 APG in his career. Same scoring arch with a very interesting parallel; 78 FT became 71.something as a Soph. Iowa has had Woolridge, BJ, Deano, Horner, Marble, Boyd, even the Lickliter teams having Peterson and Freeman, and all since '95. 18-19 years means 4-5 great PG, but we had that before Alford was gone. Lick's Peterson had 10.6 and 4.2 with excellent shooting lines in two years, he totally counts. Fran's Cartwright had 11-6 before plummeting to 6.0-4.8 for Marble to take over 11.5-3.6 in under 30 MPG. And no, I'd never forget Leslie because he's a scoring PG, as was Boyd. As ugly as Peterson and Cartwright memories are, they had excellent AST numbers with ZERO scoring targets.
One thing Iowa has had only twice before was the four year PG. Oliver then Horner. Andre, BJ and of course, Lester THE cream. Out of all these great PG only BJ and Lester were drafted, 18th and 10th overall, respectively. Andre was a Nebraska transfer, Leslie, Bryce, also transfers. Mike Gesell is going to be what only Oliver and Horner have been since...who, after Oliver and Horner as four year starters?
What's my point to all this PG stuff? None, really. I just got carried away like you thought. But it does give you some names to understand what company he's in and what company he'll soon be joining. I think his 3-pt. shot will improve a ton as well as FT, so he'll score more than Dean-O. Easily the best Hawks teams as enjoyed by Lester, BJ, Woolridge, Oliver and Horner, so Gesell won't be any different. And what about the D on this kid? Seriously?? Horner rebounded, Oliver ran boring offenses, Gesell defends.
And again, the two PG he happens to resemble the most are the other two four year starters in Iowa's past quarter of a century. Expect Oliver who can shoot or Horner who really can't as well. And expect the Sophomore versions of those two beginning now, CHA against Michigan. Give 'em Horniver!
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Oh, but if it's OLASENI who shows this is the norm and not a hot streak? 14.3 PPG, 9.3 RPG, 1 APG, 13-18 72% FG 15-18 85% FT 2 BPG. Oh, we're again tossing out MSU. Something about that game was really grabby, fouly and very not useful for this type of thing. Well, the FT would've been cool. But I'll let you imagine what old Gabe O. would have if translated to 30+ minutes.
Right now he's a scoring, rebounding defensive virtuoso who has the longest wingspan since Reiner accidentally tore of JR Koch's arms. Yes, THAT is how far I need to go to think of something like this. But, alas, Centers aren't that good just because you take them from Britain and give them a ball.
Or are they? Hand a big guy a ball and he'll seriously get THIS good in 3 years? With an Austin Powers-Eric Idle crossed with Shaq accent. All his current numbers have been are THAT^ if you translated his numbers to what a normal starting C plays, minutes-wise.
We knew we'd be betting one or the other with last year's incoming class. Didn't know it would come like this and it might not. I totally answered Gesell is the one who's for real with Olaseni being hot, though totally capable of 12-8-2 pts-reb-blk in spare minutes. I won't tangent Iowa greats at Center, but yeah, if this is the real Slim Shady he'll be better than almost all of them, Earl and those 80's and 60's big guys, correct? With those numbers extrapolated?
As real as Jeff Horner and Dean Oliver were. Oh yeah, we're back to the guy who runs things again. Clemmons best backup since Boyd, Leslie and Glasper and only soph. Marble able to dime on a dime. Weather this storm, start passing again, rebounding and running and playing D, then turn it into offense. 2 PG in the starting lineup to do that with. You go on forever if you think Olaseni or both keep this up. If you say neither, get the stick out of your Asberger's-sounding ear.
