B1G West

[NCHawker]

I don't think I would have written it this way. However, the conclusion may not be that far off. Iowa hasn't shown the ability to simply re-load and crank out 9-10 wins.


Iowa: Sell. The Hawkeyes should be strong in the run game and in stopping the run. That alone won’t cut it anymore in the Big Ten. C.J. Beathard’s departure left a question at quarterback that went unanswered this spring. Wide receivers and tight ends weren’t a picture of consistency, either, according to those who saw the Hawkeyes practice. Coach Kirk Ferentz expected newcomers arriving this summer to get a shot to compete for spots at both receiver and defensive back.



http://www.espn.com/blog/bigten/pos...h-wisconsin-strengthens-its-status-at-the-top

 

[guffus]

This is fair. I did not hear much about Iowa this spring to make me think Iowa will be a better team in 2017.

Iowa was the 2nd best team in the west last year at 6-3 in the conference. The schedule will be a little harder this year. The defense will be good again but the passing game just looks awful. Iowa could backslide from 6-3 to 5-4.

 

[OkstHawk]

Should be no worse than 6-3 with that schedule.

 

[guffus]

Should be no worse than 6-3 with that schedule.

After more thought, I would think 4-5

Losses 0-3
OSU, PSU, @Wisc

Wins 2-0
ILL, Pur

Split 2-2
@NW, @MSU Minn, @Neb

Of course Kirk will win one game he should lose and lose one game he should win, but the final result will probably be 4-5

 

[Denverhawk1]

After more thought, I would think 4-5

Losses 0-3
OSU, PSU, @Wisc

Wins 2-0
ILL, Pur

Split 2-2
@NW, @MSU Minn, @Neb

Of course Kirk will win one game he should lose and lose one game he should win, but the final result will probably be 4-5

This is a good analysis I think.

 

[PCHawk]

Should be no worse than 6-3 with that schedule.

Not sure how you come up with this considering we have 3 games that will be extremely tough.

 

[mopkins]

After more thought, I would think 4-5

Losses 0-3
OSU, PSU, @Wisc

Wins 2-0
ILL, Pur

Split 2-2
@NW, @MSU Minn, @Neb

Of course Kirk will win one game he should lose and lose one game he should win, but the final result will probably be 4-5

Not sure how @wisc is a guaranteed loss considering we won there 2 years ago and both teams haven't gotten a lot better since then. I think the badgers will be favored in the game but its not like they will be 7 point favorites.

 

[Drewapproved]

After more thought, I would think 4-5

Losses 0-3
OSU, PSU, @Wisc

Wins 2-0
ILL, Pur

Split 2-2
@NW, @MSU Minn, @Neb

Of course Kirk will win one game he should lose and lose one game he should win, but the final result will probably be 4-5

After more thought, I would think 4-5

Losses 0-3
OSU, PSU, @Wisc

Wins 2-0
ILL, Pur

Split 2-2
@NW, @MSU Minn, @Neb

Of course Kirk will win one game he should lose and lose one game he should win, but the final result will probably be 4-5

Msu is deplorable! They had 2 wins last year and should be worse. No way should they be in the split category.

 

[Drewapproved]

Sorry. MSU Had 3 wins I guess, but still they're bad.

 

[guffus]

Msu is deplorable! They had 2 wins last year and should be worse. No way should they be in the split category.

That's a key question. How good will MSU be in 2017? Dantonio had MSU in the CFP 2 years ago, before they collapsed in 2016. MSU has a young team with only 9 returning starters. If the backups last year were any good, they would have been starting last year on that 3-9 team. So you may be right. MSU might really suck in 2017. Still my instints say you have give Dantonio the benefit of the doubt.

 

[Xerxes]

That's a key question. How good will MSU be in 2017? Dantonio had MSU in the CFP 2 years ago, before they collapsed in 2016. MSU has a young team with only 9 returning starters. If the backups last year were any good, they would have been starting last year on that 3-9 team. So you may be right. MSU might really suck in 2017. Still my instints say you have give Dantonio the benefit of the doubt.

In 2012 they were bad as well and then had 3 great seasons in a row. It's going to take more than one bad season for me to think MSU has taken a step back. But the resurgence of Michigan & PSU could be a cold slap in the face for them

 

[OkstHawk]

Not sure how you come up with this considering we have 3 games that will be extremely tough.

Facilities, fans, $4.5 million, returning award winning oline, returning line backing core, etc. etc. No excuses for more than 3 losses.

 

[PCHawk]

Facilities, fans, $4.5 million, returning award winning oline, returning line backing core, etc. etc. No excuses for more than 3 losses.

I guess if you look at just Iowa I can see how you would think that. I look at the other teams on the schedule and think nothing really separates us from them. Other than the award winning oline of course.

 

[PCHawk]

Facilities, fans, $4.5 million, returning award winning oline, returning line backing core, etc. etc. No excuses for more than 3 losses.

This post confuses me even more after I went back and looked at your original post that said we shouldn't have more than 3 losses "with that schedule".

You list a good oline and a returning linebacking core. Then you say etc, etc. I assume the etc must be Wadley because after that, our entire team is a question mark. There are probably 5 teams on our schedule that have more reason for optimism than we do this year. That's why I find your "3 losses at the worst" comment so confusing.

 

[OkstHawk]

This post confuses me even more after I went back and looked at your original post that said we shouldn't have more than 3 losses "with that schedule".

You list a good oline and a returning linebacking core. Then you say etc, etc. I assume the etc must be Wadley because after that, our entire team is a question mark. There are probably 5 teams on our schedule that have more reason for optimism than we do this year. That's why I find your "3 losses at the worst" comment so confusing.

Nothing confusing. When I look at Iowa and the BIG West, there is no excuse ever for them to lose more than 3 games. Period. Not with our resources.

 

[PCHawk]

Nothing confusing. When I look at Iowa and the BIG West, there is no excuse ever for them to lose more than 3 games. Period. Not with our resources.

So other school's resources are completely irrelevant huh?

 

[OkstHawk]

So other school's resources are completely irrelevant huh?

Don't care about other schools, I care about my own. Refuse to accept mediocre results from our program -- that's been the difference between Iowa and Wisconsin over the past decade.

 

[PCHawk]

Don't care about other schools, I care about my own. Refuse to accept mediocre results from our program -- that's been the difference between Iowa and Wisconsin over the past decade.

Well when you mention resources like it gives us a leg up on the competition, maybe you should educate yourselves on other school's resources. That way it won't be so surprising to you when we lose some games. Because we play quite a few teams with equal or better resources.

 

[BigD]

Nothing confusing. When I look at Iowa and the BIG West, there is no excuse ever for them to lose more than 3 games. Period. Not with our resources.

If you mean three games in the West division then I totally agree with that.

 

[BigD]

Don't care about other schools, I care about my own. Refuse to accept mediocre results from our program -- that's been the difference between Iowa and Wisconsin over the past decade.

Agreed!!!!