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4thngoal

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Rivals has us at 28th with 13 commits.
We will have a small class anyway, but I thought I would look at who is above us with the same or less commits.
27th Tcu 13
25th Wisconsin 12
21st PSU 10
20th Tennessee 12
17th Auburn 12
16th Texas 11
14th Georgia 10
12th OSU 13
9th Florida State 13

Close to the top but with one more are 5th Oregon with 14 and #4 Oklahoma with 14.

We have argued this rankings and star rating for years. I'm not saying offer 400 kids, in fact I argue against it. However it does seem like we are doing a much better job of identifying and bringing in what we want/need. We probably won't ever have a top 10 class, just because of that reason. I don't think just because a person is a 5 star our staff offers them.
But rounding out some nice classes sure does help. I think it's easier to take a top 25 team all the way then a 45th ranked one.
 
4thngoal said:
Rivals has us at 28th with 13 commits.
We will have a small class anyway, but I thought I would look at who is above us with the same or less commits.
27th Tcu 13
25th Wisconsin 12
21st PSU 10
20th Tennessee 12
17th Auburn 12
16th Texas 11
14th Georgia 10
12th OSU 13
9th Florida State 13

Close to the top but with one more are 5th Oregon with 14 and #4 Oklahoma with 14.

We have argued this rankings and star rating for years. I'm not saying offer 400 kids, in fact I argue against it. However it does seem like we are doing a much better job of identifying and bringing in what we want/need. We probably won't ever have a top 10 class, just because of that reason. I don't think just because a person is a 5 star our staff offers them.
But rounding out some nice classes sure does help. I think it's easier to take a top 25 team all the way then a 45th ranked one.
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we were #10 in 2005, I believe.
 
ArvadaHawk said:
we were #10 in 2005, I believe.
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IDK it was that high. Odd because it wasn't until 09 we played decent and had what, 9 sr's.
So I still think it is a little about star rating and a little about identifying.
 
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4thngoal said:
IDK it was that high. Odd because it wasn't until 09 we played decent and had what, 9 sr's.
So I still think it is a little about star rating and a little about identifying.
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It was the class where we had 7 commits in the Army game. The class of Ryan Bain, etc. I believe we finished right at #10.
 
With the way the rankings work, I would expect us to end up closer to 40 than 28 when it's all said and done.

It's not just the star ratings, but also the number of commits that establishes the ranking (which doesn't make a lot of sense, but, it is what it is).
 
Once you get outside the top 5 or 10 top ranked classes it's such a crap shoot. Has anyone put together any deals comparing classes as to what they came in at and what they ended up being going back 10 even 20 yrs or so?
 
If Iowa is breaking the top 30 or so I guess that shows we are getting some talent. If your outside the top 40-45 or so your probably grasping at straws a little more. I think that's probably the line in the sand kinda. It's hard to finish in the top 10-20 at the end of the year continually when your continuously doing it talent that's not as good. Goodson I believe just committed btw..
 
I agree. There is a line in there. You can't go just by stars, but at some point you get to low and the chance of winning many games a year goes down.
I seen that. You know he is going to probably be what KF wanted Wadley to become 205 pounds of lean can't catch me juke you out of your shoes rb.
They are really high on him.
I think Geil is in a situation where they could be the next 1 and 2. But I won't count anyone else out just yet either.
Goodson and McDonald will both have every opportunity to put in the work and become...... well whatever they want. Excellent excellent additions to the way we play.
 
4thngoal said:
IDK it was that high. Odd because it wasn't until 09 we played decent and had what, 9 sr's.
So I still think it is a little about star rating and a little about identifying.
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I don't think they would take a number of those 2005 recruits. Iowa tries to get to know these recruits, their families, and coaches over a period of time. I think they like to get a bit of a handle on who the recruits are, along with how talented they are.

I also think Kirk thought of Iowa as a bit of a refuge for these kids away from big city troubles. That notion went out the window with the 05 class. You could get yourself in just as much trouble at Iowa as anywhere else. I think they also pay a bit more attention once the recruits get to Iowa making sure they get off on the right foot, and also to keep underclassmen engaged in the program early on.
 
AreWeThereYet said:
I don't think they would take a number of those 2005 recruits. Iowa tries to get to know these recruits, their families, and coaches over a period of time. I think they like to get a bit of a handle on who the recruits are, along with how talented they are.

I also think Kirk thought of Iowa as a bit of a refuge for these kids away from big city troubles. That notion went out the window with the 05 class. You could get yourself in just as much trouble at Iowa as anywhere else. I think they also pay a bit more attention once the recruits get to Iowa making sure they get off on the right foot, and also to keep underclassmen engaged in the program early on.
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I agree with all of this.
Unlike other schools we don't just offer every 5*, every 4* and offer 400 plus kids.
This is interesting, from an article.

  • 33 five-stars, or 0.01 percent of the class
  • 399 four-stars, or 0.13 percent of the class
  • 1,409 three-stars, or 0.47 percent of the class
  • 1,842 two-stars, or 0.61 percent of the class
  • 296,317 unrated, or 98.77 percent of the class
That's what I say, we are very deliberate about who gets offered.
I think the reason has several factors.
 
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