Are the safeties playing too deep?

[uihawk82]

I have noticed even on 3rd and less than 10 that Snyder and sometimes Taylor start off the play more than 10 yards and sometimes 20 yards deeper than LOS. This has been Norm and Phil's safe safeties alignment for years. And they drop farther at the snap. And many times they are too deep to stop that intermediate pass completion that gets a first down.

But if this team has trouble stopping the run they need to creep up to the LOS at the snap. Nothing worse than not stopping the run. And it might be time to do this to get quicker stops.

Are you seeing the same thing. Thoughts?

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

This thread is like catnip for a special someone.

 

[uihawk82]

This thread is like catnip for a special someone.

hahahaha, sorry

 

[HawkeyeWalker]

hahahaha, sorry

It's an interesting topic. And one I've never considered. My guess it's kind of the "bend but don't break" philosophy and forcing teams to take the long route to score. Mostly, it has served Iowa well, but it also may very well play into the frustration at times.

If only there was a football expert, guru, savant on here to school us all on the finer points.

 

[PCHawk]

It seems like whenever we have a 3rd and medium, I look at the defense before the snap and think "there is no way we can get someone open here". But when the opponent has a 3rd and medium, I look at our defense and think "this is going to be easy for them". It's literally 11 on 9 in those situations. Has been for years.

 

[trj]

This thread is like catnip for a special someone.

You guys just don't understand how football works.

 

[trj]

Aren't they doing what they always been doing? Cover 2 2 deep zones? I will admit I am watching at home so I am not getting the big picture that some are getting actually being at the games. All I can say is the NDSU game both guys were out of position to make tackles and the tackling itself wasn't great.

 

[hawkinn3]

Best corner in modern program history and he isn't trusted to guard deep without help.

 

[uihawk82]

Best corner in modern program history and he isn't trusted to guard deep without help.

I agree and they should be shading a safety to help Mabin so Mabin can play tighter and take that first move away and jump some routes. Again changing things up makes the opposing qb make mistakes and not be sure

 

[HawkGold]

You play deep to cover up big holes.

 

[thetrza]

I thought a 2-Deep Man Under Zone was the basic form of the classic Tampa-2 used since the beginning of the Ferentz era. When you have the skinny linebacker dropping back it can turn into a 3-Deep or sometimes quarters.