Adrian Claborne.

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NorfolkNeb

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How come nobody I've read has lamented the fact that Adrian Claborne has not been able crack the top-6 DE's in the country and snag a top-3 All American team so far this award season? I believe NFL scouts are more perceptive and will draft him in the first two rounds.
Unfortunate for us, because we'll likely lose #94 for next season to the pros. Amari Spivey probably is the most coveted Hawkeye, by NFL types, and will find it even harder to resist the lure of the dollars. Ironically, Bryan Bulaga, the only 5-star prep recuruit (out of this year's potential draftees) is probably the most likely to stay.
The "big deal" among college kids considering the pros, this year, is whether the player's union bargaining agreement is revised, or not. If it is not, the free-agent demarcation will shift from 4-years experience, to 6.
That has the most impact on RB's, WR's, DB's and DE's. They are the most picked up free-agents.
O-linemen (especially anchor "blind side" left tackles make good change at signing...just ask Robert Gallery) they aren't a very high percentage of all free-agent pick-ups. A first-round O-lineman in 2010 will probably make about the same amount of money in their first five years in the league as a first round pick in 2011.
That being said, Bulaga could move from a #24 pick overall to a #4 pick by staying around for one more circuit of college games (especially if he is a Big-10 MVP or unanimous All American) after one more year. That could mean an extra $1 million each of his first three years in the league.
 
Clayborn is likely not going pro.

Bulaga could move to number 4 if he dominates GT's All American defensive end. Huge game for both of those players.
 
Adrian needs another year. If you saw Suh against Texas...THAT was a dominant D lineman. That's Adrian next year if he stays. If he goes pro this year... he's an also ran.
 
I don't know, SmartHawk.

Suh was described by many as a talent that has not been seen for years, like ten to twenty years. To say that is Clayborn if he stays is maybe a little wishful thinking, and that is not a slam of him, either.

I think a lot of people think he is a little better than he is. There are probably two players in every big time conference that are as good as him. But they just don't play for Iowa so we don't know them like we know AC. That isn't slamming him, but slamming people that think he will be Suh next year, I guess.

Just my thoughts.
 
I heard he's leaving because he finally is going to trial 15 months after punching a taxi cab driver. He doesn't want to be suspended for the first quarter of a D1AA team and so he's going to go to the NFL
 
Re: I don't know, SmartHawk.

Thawki said:
Suh was described by many as a talent that has not been seen for years, like ten to twenty years. To say that is Clayborn if he stays is maybe a little wishful thinking, and that is not a slam of him, either.

I think a lot of people think he is a little better than he is. There are probably two players in every big time conference that are as good as him. But they just don't play for Iowa so we don't know them like we know AC. That isn't slamming him, but slamming people that think he will be Suh next year, I guess.

Just my thoughts.
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That is my opinion and I am sticking to it. Adrian will be as good as he wants to be but he needs another year.
 
Cyclones17 said:
I heard he's leaving because he finally is going to trial 15 months after punching a taxi cab driver. He doesn't want to be suspended for the first quarter of a D1AA team and so he's going to go to the NFL
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Maybe he should have gotten busted for some pot instead and gotten the Tuesday and Wednesday suspension and still be able to start on the Saturday after the 2 days suspension, right?
 
CNims said:
I heard he's leaving because Iowa fans don't know how to spell his name.
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CNims................

You get nominated for Post of the Month with this one! Clayborn, yeah, like liz clayborn,,,,,,,,,derp.

AC might still be nervous about that screaming girl early in the season, as well........Fortunately, the cops nabbed her :eek: :)
 
Cyclones17 said:
I heard he's leaving because he finally is going to trial 15 months after punching a taxi cab driver. He doesn't want to be suspended for the first quarter of a D1AA team and so he's going to go to the NFL
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No Cyclones17, check the schedule. We don't play Iowa State the first week of the season.
 
hawkeyescott said:
Maybe he should have gotten busted for some pot instead and gotten the Tuesday and Wednesday suspension and still be able to start on the Saturday after the 2 days suspension, right?
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I don't agree with that either but you are misinformed here

When did Banks get caught with pot? And charges have already been dropped. So his case went through 6 X faster than Clayborns and he was found to not have any pot.

My wife is an attorney in DSM and I asked her if Jan 2009 to Mach 2010 is typical for a case like Clayborns. I think you know the answer I got from her
 
Hey, SmartHawk.

Then by your thinking, if he isn't as good as Suh after next year does that mean he underachieved? According to you he could be that good if he wanted to, so he would be underachieving, right?

I think it is unrealistic for anyone to think he can be as good as the best defensive player in college football over the last ten to twenty years.
 
Re: I don't know, SmartHawk.

Suh didn't "happen" overnight. He's a talented guy with a great frame, great strength, and great athleticism and he ended up really taking off in Pelini's defensive system. As a SO, he was good, but not terribly impressive. As a JR, he hit the scene in a big way ... however, he still was nowhere near as dominating in 2008 as he ended up being in 2009.

Not unlike Babs ... he's a guy whose best year was his SR campaign.

While I think that Suh is uber-talented ... I don't believe that he's a once in 20 year talent. People certainly wouldn't have been saying that had he left early last year ....

It seems to me that Suh made a great decision by sticking around for his SR campaign! Hopefully Clayborn ends up following that lead and sticking around too!

Thawki said:
Suh was described by many as a talent that has not been seen for years, like ten to twenty years. To say that is Clayborn if he stays is maybe a little wishful thinking, and that is not a slam of him, either.

I think a lot of people think he is a little better than he is. There are probably two players in every big time conference that are as good as him. But they just don't play for Iowa so we don't know them like we know AC. That isn't slamming him, but slamming people that think he will be Suh next year, I guess.

Just my thoughts.
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Re: I don't know, SmartHawk.

homerHAWKeye777 said:
Suh didn't "happen" overnight. He's a talented guy with a great frame, great strength, and great athleticism and he ended up really taking off in Pelini's defensive system. As a SO, he was good, but not terribly impressive. As a JR, he hit the scene in a big way ... however, he still was nowhere near as dominating in 2008 as he ended up being in 2009.

Not unlike Babs ... he's a guy whose best year was his SR campaign.

While I think that Suh is uber-talented ... I don't believe that he's a once in 20 year talent. People certainly wouldn't have been saying that had he left early last year ....

It seems to me that Suh made a great decision by sticking around for his SR campaign! Hopefully Clayborn ends up following that lead and sticking around too!
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Suh was a big time recruit out of high school and he would have been a top 5/10 pick if he would have come out last year. He's always been a big time player but nobody really knew what defense was when Callahan was the coach
 
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