A new narrative - its not Brian

[NCHawker]

I've reached a point of flipping my opinion. I've heard so many poorly constructed arguments intended to make the case why Brian should go that I've just decided otherwise.

1) He's not going anywhere


2) The OLine sucks - and if there is any real blame here its his (and staff's) complete failure in the talent acquisition department. They must have though that they could develop these guys. Turns out they didn't or couldn't. Petras never had a fair shot at surveying the field and making reads.

3) Up until last year they failed to recruit the QB position. Having guys on the team that were not good enough to play D1 football.

4) Lets give credit for the unprecedented depth in the running back room

5) WR poor QB and little time to throw makes it pretty hard here. And they've created a downward spiral. Can't recruit becuase they don't throw the the WR and they don't throw to the WR because the WR are not good enough to overcome the challenges

6) Scheme, I don't know enough about that to be confident and nobody on this forum has exhibited any real knowledge about the Xs and O's. The O was serviceable in 2018 and 19, ya I fussed about it but now it seemed good enough. Brian had to pivot the running game this year from zone to what they have now. That shows some ingenuity. Not sure if its because the O/S zone is too hard for the group or if its because blocking rules (I think the former)

In the final analysis, the main failure has been in the works for a while.

It talent.

 

[headlock]

I've reached a point of flipping my opinion. I've heard so many poorly constructed arguments intended to make the case why Brian should go that I've just decided otherwise.

1) He's not going anywhere


2) The OLine sucks - and if there is any real blame here its his (and staff's) complete failure in the talent acquisition department. They must have though that they could develop these guys. Turns out they didn't or couldn't. Petras never had a fair shot at surveying the field and making reads.

3) Up until last year they failed to recruit the QB position. Having guys on the team that were not good enough to play D1 football.

4) Lets give credit for the unprecedented depth in the running back room

5) WR poor QB and little time to throw makes it pretty hard here. And they've created a downward spiral. Can't recruit becuase they don't throw the the WR and they don't throw to the WR because the WR are not good enough to overcome the challenges

6) Scheme, I don't know enough about that to be confident and nobody on this forum has exhibited any real knowledge about the Xs and O's. The O was serviceable in 2018 and 19, ya I fussed about it but now it seemed good enough. Brian had to pivot the running game this year from zone to what they have now. That shows some ingenuity. Not sure if its because the O/S zone is too hard for the group or if its because blocking rules (I think the former)

In the final analysis, the main failure has been in the works for a while.

It talent.

It’s recuriting and that’s on the coaching it’s simple…..

 

[hawkinn3]

Teams with far less talent pick up way more yards. It’s not only Brian, but it’s Brian.

 

[#1DieHardHawk]

The offensive line is a big issue and has been for awhile, but the recruiting for that unit has been pretty solid overall.

I would argue that the coaching has been the issue ever since Morgan retired. It's especially bad now with Barnett. It was bad before he got here, but has totally collapsed since his hire.

As far as recruiting, since 2019 we have signed nine 4-star linemen, including one just under a 5-star in David Davidkov. The remaining 9 have all been 3-stars.

There's been a fair amount of attrition and losses (losing Davidkov to a medical retirement really stung), but there has been enough talent in the room to put together a good cohesive line for the last few years. The coaches (coach?) haven't been getting it done.

I'm not sure Morgan ever had the luxury of that many 4-star guys and his units were machines year after year.

 

[Hawkboys]

It’s recuriting and that’s on the coaching it’s simple…..

They've recruited 4 stars at both QB and OL

 

[vork22]

If I had to choose between a top 5 offensive line and a top 5 OC, give me the line all day!

 

[HaydenHawk56]

Narrated by Morgan Freeman:



Actually, the problem traces back to a man named Kurt Fairpants. You see, once upon a time, in a land far, far, away....actually not that far.....more like Iowa City....Kurt Fairpants was the best tailor in the area. He could take fabric that no one wanted and mold and develop it into a fully functional pair of pants. Strong seams up and down and side to side, deep pockets on both sides, and a fly that would dependably close up the hole in the middle to protect the goods. In fact, in 2002, Kurt's pants attracted the attention of the entire nation when wearers of these said pants were known to score a decent amount of points when frequenting bars, restaurants, planes, trains, automoblies, and other social functions. Not long after, the natives in Iowa City got restless when they thought they were going to lose Kurt Fairpants to the National Association of Tailors.....or NAT for short for you and me.

Little did the residents know, that Kurt hired a very savy agent in the clothing industry to negotiate contracts. He negotiated million dollar deals for breakfast. Kurt's buisness property landlord, Gerry Farta, was the biggest doofus in the industry. He always gave in to the demands, no matter the size and cost...that was how good Kurt's agent was and still is.

Kurt was also a very good manipulator. You see, over time, Kurt knew that his fabric would become dated and not hold up to the new laundry detergents that began changing the landscape of the fashion industry. Kurt knew his pants were not sexy, but they were still serviceable. But, he needed something else to keep his pants upright and not sagging below the knees. So, he hired, under him, two great belt men that both shared the same last name, but no relation, Tarter. The Tarter's were the secret sause that although would see Kurt's fabric bending, it would keep the fabric from hardly ever breaking. Kurt was a very lucky man to have these two distinguished gentlemen on his payroll. Together, they would go on to win at least a share of some conference and divisional titles in the region for pants quality and knowing what you are getting time and time again.

Sadly, years, would go by for Kurt Fairpants, and some would say he began losing his mind. You see, Kurt Fairpants was not only a stubborn, but a realtively successful business man with a great agent, and had the best lease deal ever for his commerical property (thank you Gerry). Kurt would produce off-spring that he would introduce into the family business. Kurt needed his legacy to go on, if and when he decided to hang it up and ride off into that very good night. Kurt hired his meathead son, Bryan Fairpants to take over production and distrubtion of pants mechandise. However, Bryan was so unqualifed for this job, the pants he put out on the production line had more holes in them than Charlie Brown's costume in The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown, when he had "a little trouble with the scissors."

They say elections have consequences. Well, in the family business, with this clear nepotism move by old man Kurt, the same consequences happened here. Very little pants were making it out to be sold in the clothing stores. The business was going so historically poor, that no one was catching the discounts on pants because they were bored by the product....especially true by customers who have wide waste lines.

The people of Iowa City were in an outrage. They loved old Kurt, but had enough of his idiot son.

Which all leads up to the current date where Kurt and Bryan have taken their pants shit show on the road to a mad town called Madison.

But, that is another fairy tale yet to be written.

 

[Hawkfnntn]

I've reached a point of flipping my opinion. I've heard so many poorly constructed arguments intended to make the case why Brian should go that I've just decided otherwise.

1) He's not going anywhere


2) The OLine sucks - and if there is any real blame here its his (and staff's) complete failure in the talent acquisition department. They must have though that they could develop these guys. Turns out they didn't or couldn't. Petras never had a fair shot at surveying the field and making reads.

3) Up until last year they failed to recruit the QB position. Having guys on the team that were not good enough to play D1 football.

4) Lets give credit for the unprecedented depth in the running back room

5) WR poor QB and little time to throw makes it pretty hard here. And they've created a downward spiral. Can't recruit becuase they don't throw the the WR and they don't throw to the WR because the WR are not good enough to overcome the challenges

6) Scheme, I don't know enough about that to be confident and nobody on this forum has exhibited any real knowledge about the Xs and O's. The O was serviceable in 2018 and 19, ya I fussed about it but now it seemed good enough. Brian had to pivot the running game this year from zone to what they have now. That shows some ingenuity. Not sure if its because the O/S zone is too hard for the group or if its because blocking rules (I think the former)

In the final analysis, the main failure has been in the works for a while.

It talent.

All of that lands at the OCs feet. They evaluate and help decide who to recruit. They help recruit them. They then have to coach & develop them once on campus. They then put together game plans and call plays on game days. BF is responsible for the poor Oline development and play the last 2 plus yrs. He's responsible for not developing Petras or replacing him at some point with someone good. The WR room is on him. The play calling situationally is definitely all on him. So no just because BF hasn't been and won't be let go by Daddy doesn't take him off the hook any more or less.

Is BF wrong when he blames personnel for their issues the last few yrs? No not completely he's not. But the why they had the wrong personnel to begin with is partially on him and his inability to coach them up is. Parker turns 2 star nobodies into NFL drafted dudes all the time. He puts a solid unit out there yr in and yr out. He just had 3 guys off last yrs team go in top 3 rds of the NFL draft but you don't see a drastic drop off on his side of the ball. He knows what he's doing. BF doesn't.

 

[briney11]

I've reached a point of flipping my opinion. I've heard so many poorly constructed arguments intended to make the case why Brian should go that I've just decided otherwise.

1) He's not going anywhere


2) The OLine sucks - and if there is any real blame here its his (and staff's) complete failure in the talent acquisition department. They must have though that they could develop these guys. Turns out they didn't or couldn't. Petras never had a fair shot at surveying the field and making reads.

3) Up until last year they failed to recruit the QB position. Having guys on the team that were not good enough to play D1 football.

4) Lets give credit for the unprecedented depth in the running back room

5) WR poor QB and little time to throw makes it pretty hard here. And they've created a downward spiral. Can't recruit becuase they don't throw the the WR and they don't throw to the WR because the WR are not good enough to overcome the challenges

6) Scheme, I don't know enough about that to be confident and nobody on this forum has exhibited any real knowledge about the Xs and O's. The O was serviceable in 2018 and 19, ya I fussed about it but now it seemed good enough. Brian had to pivot the running game this year from zone to what they have now. That shows some ingenuity. Not sure if its because the O/S zone is too hard for the group or if its because blocking rules (I think the former)

In the final analysis, the main failure has been in the works for a while.

It talent.

IDK, all I know is what I see. WR's getting open and a QB who overthrows them by 5-10 yards or throws it as hard as he can at them from inside 10 yards away or then when he does throw a catchable ball, they drop it. Let's not forget the HORRIBLE play calling inside the redzone and in general. But yes, having D3 caliber QB's until Cade (who was on one leg before the ACL) was a contributor, but Brian is still very bad at his job. I laugh every time they show him on camera because he always seems to look clueless or like the guy on the news who saw the "NADER" goin through the trailer park.

 

[dagdaj]

The offensive line is a big issue and has been for awhile, but the recruiting for that unit has been pretty solid overall.

I've said it over and over..
Assume for a moment it's the spring of 2022.
Who's willing to trade offensive lines wholesale with Indiana/Purdue/Nebraska/ISU/Illinois/MN?
What about Wisconsin? You willing to risk that?

No way the talent on the o-line is so low that it's essentially the lowest performing line in the big 10, power 5, and damn near all of college football.

I'm simply not buying it. It's a systemic problem.

 

[HuckFinn]

I've said it over and over..
Assume for a moment it's the spring of 2022.
Who's willing to trade offensive lines wholesale with Indiana/Purdue/Nebraska/ISU/Illinois/MN?
What about Wisconsin? You willing to risk that?

No way the talent on the o-line is so low that it's essentially the lowest performing line in the big 10, power 5, and damn near all of college football.

I'm simply not buying it. It's a systemic problem.

Yup. Just flat out makes sense.

 

[Northside Hawk]

IDK, all I know is what I see. WR's getting open and a QB who overthrows them by 5-10 yards or throws it as hard as he can at them from inside 10 yards away or then when he does throw a catchable ball, they drop it. Let's not forget the HORRIBLE play calling inside the redzone and in general. But yes, having D3 caliber QB's until Cade (who was on one leg before the ACL) was a contributor, but Brian is still very bad at his job. I laugh every time they show him on camera because he always seems to look clueless or like the guy on the news who saw the "NADER" goin through the trailer park.

In Kirk and Brian's mind, air mailing the receiver by ten yards is better than letting him make a play but risking an interception. It wasn't always this bad, but since the Stanley years has been really noticeable

 

[thedukeofearl]

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Narrated by Morgan Freeman:

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Actually, the problem traces back to a man named Kurt Fairpants. You see, once upon a time, in a land far, far, away....actually not that far.....more like Iowa City....Kurt Fairpants was the best tailor in the area. He could take fabric that no one wanted and mold and develop it into a fully functional pair of pants. Strong seams up and down and side to side, deep pockets on both sides, and a fly that would dependably close up the hole in the middle to protect the goods. In fact, in 2002, Kurt's pants attracted the attention of the entire nation when wearers of these said pants were known to score a decent amount of points when frequenting bars, restaurants, planes, trains, automoblies, and other social functions. Not long after, the natives in Iowa City got restless when they thought they were going to lose Kurt Fairpants to the National Association of Tailors.....or NAT for short for you and me.

Little did the residents know, that Kurt hired a very savy agent in the clothing industry to negotiate contracts. He negotiated million dollar deals for breakfast. Kurt's buisness property landlord, Gerry Farta, was the biggest doofus in the industry. He always gave in to the demands, no matter the size and cost...that was how good Kurt's agent was and still is.

Kurt was also a very good manipulator. You see, over time, Kurt knew that his fabric would become dated and not hold up to the new laundry detergents that began changing the landscape of the fashion industry. Kurt knew his pants were not sexy, but they were still serviceable. But, he needed something else to keep his pants upright and not sagging below the knees. So, he hired, under him, two great belt men that both shared the same last name, but no relation, Tarter. The Tarter's were the secret sause that although would see Kurt's fabric bending, it would keep the fabric from hardly ever breaking. Kurt was a very lucky man to have these two distinguished gentlemen on his payroll. Together, they would go on to win at least a share of some conference and divisional titles in the region for pants quality and knowing what you are getting time and time again.

Sadly, years, would go by for Kurt Fairpants, and some would say he began losing his mind. You see, Kurt Fairpants was not only a stubborn, but a realtively successful business man with a great agent, and had the best lease deal ever for his commerical property (thank you Gerry). Kurt would produce off-spring that he would introduce into the family business. Kurt needed his legacy to go on, if and when he decided to hang it up and ride off into that very good night. Kurt hired his meathead son, Bryan Fairpants to take over production and distrubtion of pants mechandise. However, Bryan was so unqualifed for this job, the pants he put out on the production line had more holes in them than Charlie Brown's costume in The Great Pumpkin Charlie Brown, when he had "a little trouble with the scissors."

They say elections have consequences. Well, in the family business, with this clear nepotism move by old man Kurt, the same consequences happened here. Very little pants were making it out to be sold in the clothing stores. The business was going so historically poor, that no one was catching the discounts on pants because they were bored by the product....especially true by customers who have wide waste lines.

The people of Iowa City were in an outrage. They loved old Kurt, but had enough of his idiot son.

Which all leads up to the current date where Kurt and Bryan have taken their pants shit show on the road to a mad town called Madison.

But, that is another fairy tale yet to be written.

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