3-4 more points in the Ferentz era (Deace comment)

NoBeer

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LONG thread but I like this kind of mental exercise.

I [think] it came up in the podcast this week, this concept of how Iowa frequently just can't get any offense going and what would happen if they could score 3-4 more points per game. Either score that touchdown instead of settling for a field goal or get in field goal range instead of punting etc.

CAVEAT: None of this matters. I KNOW that. Every team would love to score 4 more points every game. Are there other teams out there like Iowa that tend to lose a lot of close games? Probably some. I don't know how many. Maybe Iowa is in the top 5 in close losses. Are there other teams that lose close ones when the score is like 16-17? Again, probably some but I think not nearly as many. THAT is where being able to score a few more points really changes games, because you have a defense that did its job as Iowa frequently has had. When you lose 45-48, your defense didn't really do its job IMO.

There is no way to know what would have happened in a game like this year's Wisconsin game where going up 21-14 instead of 17-14 changes the entire game. You can't know. But, what I documented below, is what the change to our record based ONLY on final score would be in the Ferentz era if we scored 4 more points. I think its safe to assume we would have won SOME more games based on circumstances like being up two touchdowns instead of 10 points. With all that said:

1) Only actual wins by final score are being counted.
2) I've added commentary where there were games we lost by 5-7 that I think could have swung the other way because of the impact of going up by 3 scores vs. 2 or going up by 2 touchdowns instead of a TD and fieldgoal. But I'm not counting them
3) There are a number ties so I'm counting those as a half a win assuming you'd split them over a large enough sample.

1999 from 1-10 to 2-9-1 (+1.5 win)
2000 from 3-9 to 4-8 (+1 win)
2001 from 7-5 to 9-3 (+2)
2002 11-2 no change although this would be a year I would challenge how the ISU game looks different if we scored a TD instead of a FG early in the game)
2003 10-3 no change. We had one 9pt and one 10pt loss. Maybe you win one of those due to the "situational" aspect.
2004 10-2 no change. The two losses were pretty big blowouts.
2005 from 7-5 to 9-3 (+2) with that horrendously officiated Outback Bowl loss to Florida.
2006 from 6-7 to 10-3. (+4) WOW. Lost 4 games by less than 3 points.
2007 from 6-6 to 7-4-1 (+1.5)
2008 from 9-4 to 12-1 (+3) with another 5 point loss I'm not counting.
2009 from 11-2 to 12-1 (+1)
2010 from 8-5 to 11-1-1 (+3.5)
2011 from 7-6 to 9-4 (+2)
2012 from 4-8 to 8-4 (+4)
2013 from 8-5 to 9-4 (+1)
2014 from 7-6 to 10-3 (+3)
2015 from 12-2 to 13-1 (+1)
2016 from 8-5 to 9-4 (+1)
2017 from 8-5 to 9-4 (+1)

So in the Ferentz era, we lost 32.5 games by 4 points or less. In several years, these are completely different season that I think vastly rewrites the history of the program but this is just a mental exercise so it doesn't matter.

The second thing I wanted to take a closer look at was that I think Deace was actually trying to make a point about how many games Iowa has lost by scoring like 21-24 points when 27 would have meant a win. So a game Iowa lost 34-35 wouldn't count in that situation as Iowa already scored more than their average. So going back through and looking at Iowa losses where we scored UNDER 30 and +4 points would have meant a win.

1999 Northwestern 21-23 (+1)
2000 Minnesota 21-23 (+1)
2001 MSU 28-31, Iowa State 14-17 (+2)
2005 Michigan 20-31, Northwester 27-28 (+2)
2006 all four losses we scored less than 30 (+4)
2007 both games we scored less than 30 (+1.5)
2008 all three games (+3)
2009 OSU 24-27 (+1)
2010 3 of the 4 we scored less than 30 but one would have been the tie so call it (+2.5)
2011 one of the losses was ISU 41-44 so it doesn't qualify for this exercise so (+1) instead of +2 above.
2012 three of the four games qualify as we scored under 30. (+3)
2013 (+1)
2014 two of the three losses qualify as we scored under 30 (+2)
2015 we would have won the B1G had we scored 4 more (+1)
2016 would have beat NDSU (+1)
2017 would have beaten PSU at home (+1)

That's 28 games where we lost by less than four and scored less than 30
 
There is no way to know. I do know there were some games where Iowa went conservative and lost. They would not have won all of those games. In the end, you are probably talking 6 or 7 games. That is unless the whole picture changes. In that case I would argue that KF always does better with a play making qb such as Tate, Banks, Stanzi, Breathard. Particularly what they excelled at was keeping a play alive.

Getting a good QB isn't easy. In my opinion, VB was one until he wasn't. Stanzi was one until he wasn't quite the same. 2001 could have looked a whole lot different. 2014 could have looked a fair amount different. What ever year the year before Stanzi started.

My guess is that we'd have had 2x times the number of good years and 2x the number of pretty good years. In other words we would be Wisky now.

Again, what is frustrating is that a case can be made that Iowa oft has 3/4 of the ingredients to be really darn good if not exceptional. Not all those years would have panned out.

There are very few teams that can do what Iowa can do this year including the D front and TE's. Keep the D off the field a bit more by having a qb that can keep plays alive. We'd likely be 4-0 right now with a shot at PSU.

Every team can say what if..at least a lot. Few teams actually have ingredients as good as Iowa. Few teams have some ingredients as bad as Iowa (easily corrected).

KF has been very close to being a legend. He trips on himself.
 
It's the very nature of how he coaches - keep things close, stretch out the game, then hang on for or eke out the win (or not). Live by the blunt sword, die by the blunt sword.
 
Play making QB. I do question why we don't go after a QB like Martinez at NE. We don't have to change the whole offense, just favor a scrambling QB who can run the ball when everyone takes off down field and there is 10 yards of green space in front of him.
 
It's the very nature of how he coaches - keep things close, stretch out the game, then hang on for or eke out the win (or not). Live by the blunt sword, die by the blunt sword.
Agreed. Low risk. Conservative. 32.5 is a big number. Doesn't surprise me.
 
Play making QB. I do question why we don't go after a QB like Martinez at NE. We don't have to change the whole offense, just favor a scrambling QB who can run the ball when everyone takes off down field and there is 10 yards of green space in front of him.
Their most successful seasons have featured a QB who is mobile, outside of Nathan Chandler in 2005.
 
It's the very nature of how he coaches - keep things close, stretch out the game, then hang on for or eke out the win (or not). Live by the blunt sword, die by the blunt sword.
Yep, he plays an offense that tries to limit plays and maximize time of possession for Iowa. I'm not saying run air raid because that wouldn't work with our defense. But as some people have keyed in on, maybe favor a true dual threat QB instead of a statue pocket passer. Keep everything else the same and you wonder about picking up a few extra first downs etc.

Hell at the end of the Wisconsin game this year in spite of the horrible special teams play which lost us that game, if you just make a first down on the last possession we were still up and the game probably ends with us winning.
 
BTW I posted this before even realizing Miller and Deace dropped a podcast on this topic today. I was going off Deaces comment from Thursday or Friday's prediction podcast.
 
It's the very nature of how he coaches - keep things close, stretch out the game, then hang on for or eke out the win (or not). Live by the blunt sword, die by the blunt sword.
Reserves never get live reps. Hurts Growth.Practice makes Perfect?
 
You seem to be a keg is half empty type of person. You should do reverse analysis of what if Iowa scored 4 points less in each game. Just think how the 2004 or 2009 seasons would be different if you took away all those 1 to 3 point victories.

Of course
 
You seem to be a keg is half empty type of person. You should do reverse analysis of what if Iowa scored 4 points less in each game. Just think how the 2004 or 2009 seasons would be different if you took away all those 1 to 3 point victories.

Of course

If Iowa scored 4 points or less a game they could possibly remove the scoreboard altogether. Wouldn’t be a need for it.
 
You seem to be a keg is half empty type of person. You should do reverse analysis of what if Iowa scored 4 points less in each game. Just think how the 2004 or 2009 seasons would be different if you took away all those 1 to 3 point victories.

Of course
No. The analysis I did is interesting because Iowa has typically ranked anywhere from 60-100 or worse in total offense. It begs the question what if you were just a TEENSY LITTLE bit less bad on offense. I didn't try to see what the Ferentz era would look like like if we scored like Ohio State. Its just 4 points. I put it in a spreadsheet. I could do three points and it would still be a lot more games won.
 

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