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I don't think you're accounting for the 4 top teams going to the playoffs. In 2005, Ohio State would be in the playoff, so Notre Dame would of been the team to get to the Orange. Same with 2006, Michigan would of been in the playoff so I think Notre Dame would of gone to the Orange. 2002-...

LOL...they rated ISU's offense at 16! Credibility lost.

Well, I wouldn't call it unprecedented. I can think of many more thing we have done that are much more embarrassing then this. Example:

or basketball...

HAHA. Im in tears! That is ******* funny!

Who needs to coach when you have EVERY NBA GM on speed dial?

Incorrect. I saw the entire ISU football team sniffing the Nebraska trophy case back in 2009.

Iowa plays 5 home games on years they go to Ames. I would think the series just gained some momentum.

John kept his cool, apologized, moved on, and than apologized again before he signed off. Big difference.

So was Rob Howe off base when he made his statement of fact? Rob Howe disagreed and said Stanzi did not know.

Agree 100%, but Matt started out by saying that players had to of known, and than proceeded to use Stanzi as an example...at least that is how I heard it. Matts problem is he does not think before he says some things. I agree 100% that throwing specific players names out is wrong, especially...

Listing names specifically is probably not the smartest thing, but if its a general question, which Matt's started out as, its a legit question. Im not sticking up for either of the two. They both should be embarrassed with themselves.

If Sims was habitually stealing credit cards and buying things with them, I don't see how asking if other teammates knew about it is a bad thing. Its a legit question.

Im curious, with who? And for the record, I dont think what you said, Matt, was all that bad. Howe was obviously on his rag and flipped a lid. That being said, you could of been the one to take the high road and just quit, however, you kept fueling the argument.

Whats your prediction?

Sounds like it was the same one...

Bleacher Nation is considered national media?

Id put Bob Brenlys name on that list too.

Exactly. A vast majority of Cyclone fans realize that we will be lucky to be bowl eligible after this season. There are a few who like to be extremely optimistic, but those fans are in every fan base, including the Hawks. I have talked to more than enough true Hawk fans who think you guys...