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No not great but very good. You can't say great with a NDSU loss.Michigan was one of our best wins ever.

I was thinking the same thing. Why are we spending millions of dollars to keep up with the Joneses and we take this kind of attitude and approach. It's like he has given up trying and I think he did a few years ago when they reeled in the recruiting zones to be more Midwest. Another brilliant...

You know, there is a young guy, Carter Hill who committed to Texas, December 1st, whatever year, it was like 1983. He was a guy I had my sights set on, my heart set on and all that stuff. I remember walking around the school that day blown away. And Carl Jackson said better to find out now than...

Now a master at running off recruits

Is it a failure because we now have lost to a FCS team?

If we didn't make it back to Indy, it's a bust.

I've been critical of the coaches but Kirk and staff deserve a lot of credit. They had them ready to play and a game plan that gave them a chance to win. All you could have asked for against Meatchicken and where we are with the season. Go Kirk, Go Hawks.

We lose to cupcakes all the time. Those are the losses I can't stomach. I'd rather play Alabama and lose by 30. At least you can say you lost to Alabama instead of the Bison.

We are but we do not get much mileage out of it. I mean with Kirk sending so many Olinemen to the Pros in the first round you would think we'd have an occasional 5 star knock on our door and tons of 4 stars. We do get a few 4 stars but not like we should be. I don't have enough fingers and...

3 is about all I can support ya on.

Shouldn't we just be happy with a participation medal and that Kirk is a stupendous human being?

Only by winning out and I'm not even sure we have a chance at Indy any longer. So if it's just the last 4 games that gets me close to a turnaround but not quite. If we could go to Indy and win it, then that turns it around for me and then the bowl game is a plus at that point. Michigan and...

We are the laughing stock of the country not only for these contracts but everyone from recruits, players and opposing coaches know how easy it is to game plan for us. But hey, why say anything...they want to keep Mr 7-5 in place as long as possible. Recruits see how boring we are and want a...

Yep I think it is a two fold problem. We need to get rid of Davis, he is horrible no matter what. But Kirk needs to hire an innovator and then step away. Tell them wants a zone blocking scheme and .... step.....away......

I'm still mad he didn't go for it. Even with a bad spot we were moving the ball pretty well and should have kept the momentum going. I would have risked it that early in the game.

Did you play or coach Cecil? I only played HS football but I'm a pretty astute IMO. There is always a lot more to what is going on when you aren't involved first hand and only the coaches, players a few others are, but results are results. You can't skew that much. However, you can choose...

It absolutely was our greatest season, against one of the weakest schedules we have ever had so you kind of have to take with a grain of salt. However, the coaches still have to coach and the players have to execute and you need some luck. It was great for sure but had we played Michigan or OSU...

You can't just look at head to head. I think those B1G championships and the overall record speaks volumes. And why do you assholes always have to call people stupid or jock sniffers? Because we don't share your opinion you try to demean someone by calling them names? Who needs to get a get...

LOL CECILB... Facts are crazy aren't they.

And that's the problem. Why shouldn't we be on par on an almost annual basis? Sure, not every year can we be but take a look at what they have done the last 6-7 years. Kirk has never came close to that sustained success except for his 3 straight top 8 finishes. That was the height of his...