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Yeah, and it's not like Fran was paid anywhere near the top of the conference. The Fran era at Iowa was mutually beneficial, it's just run its course.

Right, he wants his money and IMO, he should get it. Why willingly walk away from millions. That's smart business. As far as Beth is concerned, I don't think there's much to debate. If she brings him back, Iowa basketball will go further in the red.

Longtimer, ya need some patience homey, this same post over and over won't help it get here any faster. I think everyone is finally in your spot and ready for a new coach. I really hope it isn't the Drake coach who took over a super healthy program and kept it on the tracks for a season. I...

How differently would Fran be viewed if he would have had the Covid year with Luka in front of fans? I mean, that was his best team and the fans couldn't even go watch them in person. Things I sometimes think about.

Also, easier to win NCAA games when you don't lose your best players with eligibility every single season, the landscape is so different, it's very difficult to compare them. Roy Marble isn't playing his Sr. season at Iowa. How good would Tom be if that didn't happen. Imagine every great player...

Nah, she's letting it play out and I think she's more than up to make that move. She fired Kirk Farentz kid, Fran should be easy comparatively and will likely be as widely approved as the BF move.

They are all leaving- I'd count on it.... at least Dix, Harding and Freeman, regardless what happens at HC. If you think anyone wants to be a part of the miserable product that is Iowa basketball, it's fan support, it's NIL package and current state of affairs....we're all in for a rude...

IMO, the environment that Fran is trying to succeed at Iowa is leaps and bounds more difficult than what Davis did and it's like, not even close. I also think Fran is 5x the recruiter and developer. Let's face it, Tom didn't lose his best players to a bag of money every season or players that...

Also, this is far from bottoming out. Iowa has already had a better season this year than any of Licks and have been far more competitive

Also, whether Fran stays or goes, plan for A LOT of roster changes and guys leaving. I think Harding and Freeman are leaving either way. Beth has to consider our current fan situation and the need to fundraise 65 million for the Carver renovation. When you look at things like that.... and you...

"I hope Fran just decides to walk away and bows out" sounds like a person who's never had or ever will have 4.5 million dollars.

It's not publicly known, but it is known that Creighton and most Big East teams are playing with higher pay roles because they don't have football competing at most of the schools. I also think that it was kind of proven that Creighton was paying kids before NIL and well, those schools already...

Wait, did I read that there's a rumor that Devries turned down a contract extension at WV?

The team quite clearly hasn't checked out, they are outmanned at this point. I still would applaud a new direction for the program. I am still watching, at attended a game in the last week, but I am checked out.

Couple of observations - the decline was on way before Lick, it's now at an all time low. Iowa can afford to walk away from Fran.

If Iowa were able to match those types of teams with the same aggression we'd not be discussing who our next coach is. We should have players that would be thrown in a brig if they were on the street.

I went to the game. I was being too hard on Iowa for not making it a welcome environment and fan interaction. I thought crowd interaction was good. It was about 3/4th's full (lots of RED though) and over all the experience was a positive. That said, every single concession stand had a line that...

Fran deserves to be fired after this season. He didn't deserve until now, now he does. You can't miss the NCAA two years in a row at Iowa, especially 15 years into it. So, Longtimer, you've been posting this same post 10 times a year for the last several. For the first time in a "Long Time"...

Fran is going to tell his players to go out and get the best deal they can for themselves, regardless of school. Because they should, that's what Fran did, that's what all of us do.

There have been rumors of Josh Dix to Creighton for over a year. Iowa held that off this season, but I still think those rumors are/were true. A message board is a great place to discuss rumors, there are 20 of us on here, if we can't have these discussions here, then where? They are being had...