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Yep, I was reading that, thinking that I'm about a 2.5 on your list. I'd make a move ONLY if there was a "can't miss" (Is there such a thing?) hire lined up. It's easy to say now, but I was never all that enamored about all the Steve Alford rumors we were hearing in 1999. Mainly because he...

Agree totally with all of that. If Fran's results drop off, then yeah, I'd definitely change my tune about moving on. If he were to leave, I wouldn't be crushed, either. If he did leave after this year for example, I feel like the program is at least on fairly sound footing, unlike after Lick...

Fran should not be fired. I want more too, and I am just as frustrated with the Sweet 16 drought and lack of tournament results as anybody, but the guy is getting us to the big dance pretty regularly and the teams are competitive enough to the point where we care enough to be vocal about it...

See my post on 1 page. It's worse. KOK definitely had some rough years, but he also had some offenses that were Top 30-60. BF hasn't sniffed that even once. For whatever reason, whether it's a BF or recruiting issue, etc., things have definitely trended the wrong way.

Seems to me like it's a fine line to walk. I don't believe in knee-jerk reactions to stuff and tend to prefer a bit more leash given as opposed to less. On the flip side, too much leash (IMO) can lead to the staff feeling a bit too content. From where I sit, I believe we're seeing the latter...

Yep. Remember when everyone wanted KOK's head? There were some struggles offensively when he was our OC as well, but at least he had some offenses that were Top 30-50'ish or so. Haven't even really sniffed that since. I know he had some pretty good personnel at times (2002 offense was...

Funny you ask, because I actually posted this on another site. Rankings are based on total offense. The numbers are our rank out of the number of teams nationally. I couldn't find the 1999 stats but they had to be bad. 1999 - ?? (Ken O'Keefe) 2000 - 104/116 (Ken O'Keefe) 2001 - 45/117 (Ken...

Well, it's hard to tell a whole lot from that video. It's a pixelated hot mess. But going by what I've read here, JBo was being a grade A douche and was begging to get his lights punched out. That's exactly what happened. Right or wrong, he walked into that situation. I'm not defending...

Lot of good points there. You are correct about the skill positions in football. Those seem to be our soft spots. Iowa seems a lot better at getting good linemen, etc. And yes, KF in the 2010's wasn't as dominant as he was in the 2000's, 2002-04 especially. Then 2008-09 were pretty strong...

Serious question - why do you think the football program has had so much more success than the basketball program, the last 20 years in particular? Obviously part of the answer is Steve Alford and Todd Lickliter, but I always figured that football would be harder to be successful in, due to...

So much for having to have a winning tradition, beaches, warm weather, etc. to be able to recruit.

Just as long as burning this scholarship doesn't interfere with the possibility of recruiting a difference maker (meaning that the scholarship is sitting unused next year otherwise, and it sounds like that's the case), then I guess whatever.

I would also add that I think Gonzaga is lucky that Mark Few has stuck around for the long haul. Nearly always, those guys jump to a higher profile job.

Yep I think the only two ways are either 1) Cheating really well or 2) Luck into a great coach that sticks around long enough, and provides enough consistent results, for recruiting to start picking up, basically like a Gonzaga. I ain't gonna turn blue holding my breath waiting for either of...

OK, good deal. Helps shore things up in the paint a little bit.

So ISU's win total from last season matched our NCAA Tournament seed, yet they are somehow out-recruiting us. What. The. F@!K.

Which makes me realize that I wouldn't feel the least bit bad if our coaches were bending the rules as well. No, it doesn't make it "right"... I'm just asking for a level playing field. If a level field means everyone is doing it cleanly, I'd be good with that, too, and that would be ideal...

I don't know. What were they 25 years ago? The first I remember them being anything was when they made that Cinderella run to the Elite 8 in 1999. Dan Monson moved on to Minnesota where he fell flat, but Mark Few took the reigns at Gonzaga, and they've been legit ever since. Reminds me of a...

Impressive list of offers... Guess I will trust Fran's evaluation skills on this one until we see otherwise.

I have zero expectations for next year. I'm thinking sub-500 overall. At least, I figure it's best to expect that and hope to be pleasantly surprised if this team can win more than they lose. Transfer portal - give me reason to believe (or even hope) that our coaches can clean up there. So...