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Once again he put the team in a spot to win EVERY GAME last year. In every situation the D could not hold on to the lead late in the game.

The offense wasnt the problem for Iowa last year so dont put that on Stanzi. The D was the problem in the 4th last year.

He got better from his Sophomore year to his junior year. He became a better passer his senior year but the D let the team down in the 4th in every loss. Yes he did get better each year.

2nd time JVB has done that this year. Does he know the rules?

Your a joke if you honestly think Stanzi didnt get better from his first start to his last.

The style of O we play is really hurt by not having a TE that can get open/make a catch. Look at are best years and look at who we had for TE's.

I still cant believe how awful JVB is on the road. Probably doesnt help that are WR routes came straight out of the 50's.

Game is on btn? I cant find it on Direct tv

I dont think its a show. its real. Tebow loves his Jesus and I have no problem with that. Some people like/want to believe another "force" or "God" lead them to water and some people like to believe they had control over there actions leading them to water. If you find water does it matter?

Btw if you want to stop Tebow and Denver just watch Iowa in the Orange bowl.

I ment the records of the teams they played against not the records of there teams.. Sorry. Tebow has played one good team this year and they made him look like a joke and even called him a joke after the game. Oakland was playing good before they lost a ton of good players. The Jet, Chiefs...

What were the records of the teams they played? Noticed that wasnt on there.....

No but the circus that follows him around does. BTW Jon i think your right about us watching his career apex right now.

It wouldnt be anywhere close to what it is now. Saying that I will say that more people are atheist now then ever before. The dawn of the tech age where people have the world and facts at there fingertips and not feed one opinion there whole life has caused this. So maybe people would feel...

Under 47% career is pretty bad and a reason why the media makes it out to be what it is.

I was not arguing that Stanzi was better I was pointing out that so far Tebow has been smoke and mirrors. I Stopped reading when you said Pocket presence though. Have you ever seen him play? Its pretty clear that you have some weird love for Tebow that nobody is going to "prove" to you...

Also playing awful teams in his "4-1 run" go to Tebow. A 2X4 with a helmet on could have played QB for Denver and won those games. Denver could win the AFC West with a under .500 record!!!! They should win the next 2 games they play and the Tebow train will be at full speed before it runs off...

And Oakland is banged up and going nowhere fast! Dont be fooled people. The only team with a pulse made him look like a fool and "Tebowed" right over him lol.

Made me spit out my coffee!

went into the thread expecting it to be about scoring.