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Look we both agree that the polls should be re-evaluated every week and if there calls for a drastic change, then their should be one. I think it even states this in the by-laws of the AP voter instructions. And I agree with you that the pollsters don't do this. People that say "it will all...

Bhawk, I think you and I are saying the same thing, but this isn't what Jon's article was saying. Jon says "I am one that prefers to make preseason rankings based upon my projections of where I think the teams will finish." This is what I disagree with and this is what CFN is not doing. I...

[B] No, you don't look at a team's schedule at all. Only AFTER the games are played.

Jon, because UNC has to play a very tough schedule. I agree, CFN does need to do a better job pointing out why they will go 6-6, but they do play GA Tech, LSU, Miami, V-Tech and have several other tough games. Still, the fact remains...you CAN'T factor in the upcoming schedule when you are...

First of there is also a difference between "projections" and "predictions". It is ok to project how good you think a team is going to be, based on the talent they have, but it is not ok to rank a team based on their upcoming schedule. It is ok to disagree with someone's projections. I...

Jon, You are missing the point here and this subject is actually one of my biggest pre-season pet peaves with college football. First of all, let me say that I don't think there should be pre-season rankings to begin with. I like most people feel they should wait until the 4th week in the...

On your side note....just curious as to why it matters if two of their first three games are tough? The upcoming schedule doesn't have anything to do with today's rankings.

What happened to Wegher? ;)

Re: NO MORE WEGHER THREADS This site reminds me of 5th grade. A bunch of the girls in my class were fighting and saying bad things about each other and then the "teacher" had to come in and tell everyone that they couldn't do it anymore. Yet, I can't stop coming here for some reason. Anyone...

Whoops, meant to post this in recruiting...not sure how to move it there.

It looks like this year's class continues to get better and maybe with a good season will close strong. Which class is looking better in your opinions?

Speaking of fail.

Wisky was ahead 3-0 when Clay went down. And he played in all 4 quarters in the game, but was largely ineffective in the final 3 quarters. Funny that you don't think a team that beat 3 top 15 teams played very well in any of them. It appears to me that someone has the blinders on. Not...

Arizona was an big win against an average team. Iowa State was a loss to a bad team. Texas Tech was a big loss to an average team. VT and UT were losses. I agree they are improving, but they are not top ten material yet. Until they win a big game, I am not buying it.

Funny that YOU didn't put our other common opponent and the score. Of the 3 common opponents, Iowa was 3-0 and Nebraska was 2-1. I think those are the only stats that matter. Iowa beat 3 ranked teams (2 on the road, one on a neutral site) and only lost 2 games. Who did Nebraska beat...

You said this: "HUH??????? You mean they arent predicting who the best teams will be, or predicting how the final rankings will look??? I have been misguided all these years i guess" No, rankings are not predictions of who the best teams will be or predicting how the final rankings will...

I give up. I guess it's my logic.

If you are going to have preseason rankings (which we shouldn't have), then you take into factors like previous season's success and returning starters, but you don't rank them on what their schedule looks like. Once they play games and you have a chance to see them play, you rank them on all...

Phew...thanks, I owe you one. I didn't want to have to take the time to explain it, but you nailed it. I don't know that a lot of people understand the difference, even some voters!

Mandel talks about how that's one of the reasons why some teams get a little too highly ranked, because of their bowl performances. He says, "The one common thread you'll find in both cases (as with so many other preseason "flops") is that prognosticators got caught up in their impressive...