Trump supporters, how do you square this?

Drumpf famously said he could shoot a person on 6th avenue in NYC and his supporters would still support him. Dammit, he was right!

It's extremely unlikely, in my mind, that Donnie is anywhere near a good guy in terms of his sexually assaultive behavior. But again, he IS the Vice President.

Donnie will never ever be held to account for anything, sadly. Unless his boss turns on him.

President Musk sure seems to like his VP, because he'll do whatever he says. Donnie's safe.
 
Americans fail to see context these days. Statutory rape? That's a big deal. Not all crimes are the same.

Your guy had over 30 felonies and is now the Vice President. :)
Actually he had one felony that was fractioned off into 34 to make it look worse for the election. They will all be dismissed soon enough.
 
It's amazing how quickly Trump went from a power hungry dictator to someone who bends the knee to someone else. Which one is it guys?
 
Saying when you're rich and famous you can just walk up to a woman and grab them by the pussy is about as true of a statement as you can make. It's like a girl saying if you're hot you can just walk up and grab a guy's dick and he won't care. The problem is, it's only right most of the time, and rich and famous people get way too overconfident and assume every girl wants it. Eventually it's going to burn you. Also some girls are full of shit so I take all that he said she said with a grain of salt.
 
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What is amazing is how many people in Congress, and in the MAGA movement actively tried to cover this up and sweep it under the rug.

Both parties and most corporations do this. It's extremely naive to claim its a MAGA thing.

I also am hopeful it becomes politically taboo to cover up.
I was speaking specifically of this incident.
Maybe the taboo starts when folks on both sides condemn this type of behavior - unconditionally - rather than rationalizing "others do it" when these things come to light.
 
Saying when you're rich and famous you can just walk up to a woman and grab them by the pussy is about as true of a statement as you can make. It's like a girl saying if you're hot you can just walk up and grab a guy's dick and he won't care. The problem is, it's only right most of the time, and rich and famous people get way too overconfident and assume every girl wants it. Eventually it's going to burn you. Also some girls are full of shit so I take all that he said she said with a grain of salt.
All 25 plus girls are full of shit?? Classic response. How many do you need to come foreword for you to admit that Trump is a guilty disgusting sexual abuser?
 
So, do you believe Trump is guilty of sexual assault?

If so, should he be held accountable?

Yeah, but obviously, he wasn't held accountable

Over half of America voted him in for another term

In Florida if Matt Gaetz runs for the Senate, he has a strong chance of being elected

The moral compass has passed us by, perhaps forever

A lot of folks who voted for tRUMP believe the accusations and convictions are lies just as
donny says they are

Times have changed
 
So, do you believe Trump is guilty of sexual assault?

If so, should he be held accountable?
Someone pointed out earlier that not all crimes are equal, which is a good point. Sexual assult can range from doing something that makes someone uncomfortable to a violent rape. I'd bet everything I have that Trump, along with 99% of rich famous men, are guilty of crossing the line and making a woman feel uncomfortable. So in that sense he's almost certainly guilty if some form of sexual assult.

As far as being held accountable, unfortunately it's just so hard to prove anything other than a violent rape. If some woman comes out and said Trump grabbed her tit back in 1997 and it pissed her off, I'm just not sure how he can be held accountable for something like that.

Do you think Biden should be held accountable for showering with his way too old daughter and making her so uncomfortable that she started showering in the middle of the night?
 
Kind of difficult to, "Clean up the swamp" and back Gaetz at the same time.
I'm still not sure exactly what Gaetz did. I've read some articles and it sounds like he's accused of paying women for sex. But also women are saying he didn't pay them for the sex so nut sure what's going on there. I also saw where he did ecstacy at a party in front if people once and exact words from article "was at party where there were drugs including cocaine", but didn't say he did it himself. Also a girl said she had sex with him when she was 17. But supposedly she was saying she was of age.

Is he married? Was he married during all of that? In a perfect world, I'd very much not want congress members doing coke. Ecstacy isn't great either, but not as bad. I'd also not want them committing adultery, but I don't really care about that one that awfully much. As far as accidently screwing a 17 year old goes. Definitely not a good look. But man, some 17 year olds could trick me too so I'd probably base my thoughts on that after seeing a picture of her. If she was 17 and looked 25, and he really didn't know, I don't really care. If she was 17 and looked 13, I'd think he was a sick F who probably does worse with younger.
 
I'm still not sure exactly what Gaetz did. I've read some articles and it sounds like he's accused of paying women for sex. But also women are saying he didn't pay them for the sex so nut sure what's going on there. I also saw where he did ecstacy at a party in front if people once and exact words from article "was at party where there were drugs including cocaine", but didn't say he did it himself. Also a girl said she had sex with him when she was 17. But supposedly she was saying she was of age.

Is he married? Was he married during all of that? In a perfect world, I'd very much not want congress members doing coke. Ecstacy isn't great either, but not as bad. I'd also not want them committing adultery, but I don't really care about that one that awfully much. As far as accidently screwing a 17 year old goes. Definitely not a good look. But man, some 17 year olds could trick me too so I'd probably base my thoughts on that after seeing a picture of her. If she was 17 and looked 25, and he really didn't know, I don't really care. If she was 17 and looked 13, I'd think he was a sick F who probably does worse with
Not sure what Gaetz has done?
Here is the report.

 
Someone pointed out earlier that not all crimes are equal, which is a good point. Sexual assult can range from doing something that makes someone uncomfortable to a violent rape. I'd bet everything I have that Trump, along with 99% of rich famous men, are guilty of crossing the line and making a woman feel uncomfortable. So in that sense he's almost certainly guilty if some form of sexual assult.

As far as being held accountable, unfortunately it's just so hard to prove anything other than a violent rape. If some woman comes out and said Trump grabbed her tit back in 1997 and it pissed her off, I'm just not sure how he can be held accountable for something like that.

Do you think Biden should be held accountable for showering with his way too old daughter and making her so uncomfortable that she started showering in the middle of the night?

I’m guessing you never read any of the accusations from all those women?

So certain shades of assault or rape is fine?

Was Biden brought up in the question he asked you or are you just deflecting?
 
I’m guessing you never read any of the accusations from all those women?

So certain shades of assault or rape is fine?

Was Biden brought up in the question he asked you or are you just deflecting?
I've heard a lot about the lady he was ordered to pay money to. That one is pretty shady.

Pretty sure I made myself clear that certain shades are worse than others. I wouldn't say the lightest shade is "fine". But it's also not the biggest deal ever either.

I gave my thoughts on Trump first so it wasn't a deflection. After finishing my thoughts there, I asked you your thoughts on Biden. Which you then deflected. Imagine my surprise...
 
This latest topic has been about politicians being held accountable for sexual assult. Seems like the sitting president (I think he still is?) Being accused of being a pedophile by his kids would be relevant to the discussion. Guess not.
 
If Biden is guilty or has been found guilty, then by all means prosecute him and put him where he belongs.

I still haven’t heard if you find anything that Trump has done to these countless women as wrong and he should be held accountable.
 
Where was I deflecting? I have no problem with calling Biden guilty if he’s brought to court and proven guilty by a jury or a judge. That must be hard for you to do.
 
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