Perhaps this is what Mandel was getting at...

You know what else I find funny about your post? You call yourself a Hawk fan, but re-read the bolded part of your post. Even if you don't share the opinions of those Hawk fans who are calling out Mandel, wouldn't their comments be making all Hawk fans look "childish" as you so thoughtfully put? All Hawk fans would include you right? If you classify yourself as a Hawk fan, as you say you do, then you should be saying "I hope you guys know how you're making US look to the nation". Instead you say you and your... Me thinks you just called yourself out and didn't even realize it.

Either you're a Hawk fan and your dislike of KF has clouded your vision so much that you aren't really much of a fan anymore, or you're just a poser who's been trolling for quite some time. Which one is it?

Just shut up, you fool. Please don't respond to anything I write on here anymore.

FreedComanche
 






Lol ooo a little sensitive when you get called out I see Freed. Sorry but as much as you hate on the Hawks and the majority of Hawkeye fans I think you're just a pretender.

Have you ever seen the movie Primal Fear? You know where Edward Norton pretends to be schizophrenic in order to get away with murder? This reminds me of the scene where he gives himself away and the audience realizes that really Aaron was just Roy the psycho killer all along...

#busted

Primal Fear (9/9) Movie CLIP - Good For You, Marty (1996) HD - YouTube

For the record, I'm not high and mighty enough to determine who is and who isn't a fan. That isn't my intent. This is just my opinion which I am entitled to. Guess it's just hard for me to fathom how someone can call themselves a fan of a team when all they do is rag on the coach and on the majority of their fellow fans. Seems like a miserable way to cheer for your team. To each his own.
 
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Lol ooo a little sensitive when you get called out I see Freed. Sorry but as much as you hate on the Hawks and the majority of Hawkeye fans I think you're just a pretender.

Have you ever seen the movie Primal Fear? You know where Edward Norton pretends to be schizophrenic in order to get away with murder? This reminds me of the scene where he gives himself away and the audience realizes that really Aaron was just Roy the psycho killer all along...

#busted

Primal Fear (9/9) Movie CLIP - Good For You, Marty (1996) HD - YouTube

For the record, I'm not high and mighty enough to determine who is and who isn't a fan. That isn't my intent. This is just my opinion which I am entitled to. Guess it's just hard for me to fathom how someone can call themselves a fan of a team when all they do is rag on the coach and on the majority of their fellow fans. Seems like a miserable way to cheer for your team. To each his own.

Thought we had an agreement from a month or so back that we wouldn't respond to each other's posts on here. That would be best. Haven't you noticed I don't respond to any of your stuff now? Well, unless you single me out like you just did.

I totally don't respect anything that you post and I'm sure you don't of what I post. It would be best just not to respond to each other on here. Now let's make this permanent.

FreedComanche
 




I'll respond to whomever I want. You don't have to respond back. I've been doing a much better job of not responding to your posts lately because it seems you've made a concerted effort to be less of a pot stirrer. I just felt I should point out the fact you contradicted yourself in your own post while trying to berate Hawk fans who called out Mandel.

The program has fallen significantly in recent years. I don't think anyone is arguing that it hasn't. What they are arguing is the fact KF does not belong on a list of top 5 worst coaches based on performance only, of which you yourself said Mandel was incorrect in his analysis. If you agree he should not be on that list based on the criteria given then you're being hipocritical. It's a tad bit annoying how you seem to stand up on your soap box and act like you've seen the light, and the rest of Hawkeye Nation is simply a bunch of lemmings trying to figure out what you already know.

What's funny is most of whom you would label a "KF supporter" have a very short leash on when they will be ready to move forward without him if things do not turn a corner. It isn't like the majority of Hawk fans are simply okay with the way things have been as you seem to insinuate.

You're exaggerating because you dislike KF and the article written fits your narrative. No one, I repeat no one, is making Hawkeye fans looks childish and angry in front of an entire nation lol. Please... if anything it simply makes Hawkeye fans look loyal to a fault. A trait they share with KF himself. A trait that is not uncommon in Iowa. Considering the level of success he has brought to Iowa in the past, and the fact he's had multiple opportunities to bolt for bigger jobs but he stayed I believe the majority of Hawkeye Nation is willing to give him a little more time to prove if he can turn it around again. Don't confuse that loyalty for them being unable to understand the circumstances currently facing the program.
 
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I have come to the conclusion that this years team is going to win 10+ games, not because I think they can, but because they HAVE TO DO IT for the fans sake. Let me explain. During the '02-'04 era Iowa fans got along and instead of arguing with each other over petty crap, they argued with fans of other teams and not just ISU fans either, all teams. Then '05-'07 happened and many fans were disgruntled but thought KF would turn it around and he did for the most part in the '08-'10 era. Then that puts us in the '11-'12 era a new all time low for KF and the fans. Iowa fans are arguing more with each other than they are with ISU fans and hiding from fans from the other B1G schools. Like I said, the team HAS to win 10+ games, regardless of if they can or not, for the fans.
 


I'll respond to whomever I want. You don't have to respond back. I've been doing a much better job of not responding to your posts lately because it seems you've made a concerted effort to be less of a pot stirrer. I just felt I should point out the fact you contradicted yourself in your own post while trying to berate Hawk fans who called out Mandel.

The program has fallen significantly in recent years. I don't think anyone is arguing that it hasn't. What they are arguing is the fact KF does not belong on a list of top 5 worst coaches based on performance only, of which you yourself said Mandel was incorrect in his analysis. If you agree he should not be on that list based on the criteria given then you're being hipocritical. It's a tad bit annoying how you seem to stand up on your soap box and act like you've seen the light, and the rest of Hawkeye Nation is simply a bunch of lemmings trying to figure out what you already know.

What's funny is most of whom you would label a "KF supporter" have a very short leash on when they will be ready to move forward without him if things do not turn a corner. It isn't like the majority of Hawk fans are simply okay with the way things have been as you seem to insinuate.

You're exaggerating because you dislike KF and the article written fits your narrative. No one, I repeat no one, is making Hawkeye fans looks childish and angry in front of an entire nation lol. Please... if anything it simply makes Hawkeye fans look loyal to a fault. A trait they share with KF himself. A trait that is not uncommon in Iowa. Considering the level of success he has brought to Iowa in the past, and the fact he's had multiple opportunities to bolt for bigger jobs but he stayed I believe the majority of Hawkeye Nation is willing to give him a little more time to prove if he can turn it around again. Don't confuse that loyalty for them being unable to understand the circumstances currently facing the program.

Of course you can respond to me. I don't want you to, but can't stop you. It would just be better if we didn't respond to each other at all. When two people don't respect each other it's foolish to try to reason together. All it will develop into is a fight on here that nobody wants to see.

FreedComanche
 


welp, here we go again. ding ding

yep, another day on the forum

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Of course you can respond to me. I don't want you to, but can't stop you. It would just be better if we didn't respond to each other at all. When two people don't respect each other it's foolish to try to reason together. All it will develop into is a fight on here that nobody wants to see.

FreedComanche

This is where we differ. I try to respect the fact everyone has an opinion. Emphasis on the word try, because it is hard to. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it. With you it is just the consistent negative trend to your posts that leads me to believe you're either a Hawkeye fan whom I would never want to be around because of your pi$$-poor attitude, or you're not a Hawkeye fan at all. It's one thing to criticize KF, quite another to start berating a whole section of Hawk fans.

Regardless, I will continue to ignore the majority of your posts for the sake of peace in Hawkeyeland. That is unless I think you are flat out wrong.
 


I have come to the conclusion that this years team is going to win 10+ games, not because I think they can, but because they HAVE TO DO IT for the fans sake. Let me explain. During the '02-'04 era Iowa fans got along and instead of arguing with each other over petty crap, they argued with fans of other teams and not just ISU fans either, all teams. Then '05-'07 happened and many fans were disgruntled but thought KF would turn it around and he did for the most part in the '08-'10 era. Then that puts us in the '11-'12 era a new all time low for KF and the fans. Iowa fans are arguing more with each other than they are with ISU fans and hiding from fans from the other B1G schools. Like I said, the team HAS to win 10+ games, regardless of if they can or not, for the fans.

Amen to this Dave. Would be a welcome year for a surprising result. I'm generally a positive person. If things tank again it's going to be nothing but bitc%ing and moaning for the foreseeable future.
 


This is where we differ. I try to respect the fact everyone has an opinion. Emphasis on the word try, because it is hard to. That doesn't mean I have to agree with it. With you it is just the consistent negative trend to your posts that leads me to believe you're either a Hawkeye fan whom I would never want to be around because of your pi$$-poor attitude, or you're not a Hawkeye fan at all. It's one thing to criticize KF, quite another to start berating a whole section of Hawk fans.

Regardless, I will continue to ignore the majority of your posts for the sake of peace in Hawkeyeland. That is unless I think you are flat out wrong.


You should try harder because of your poor arguing skills you jump to name calling and in this post you think you get to decide if and how good somebody is a fan of Iowa depending on if they agree with you or not. Get off your high horse pal. I see you try to jump on people all the time. You try to jump on ISU fans and Iowa fans who dont agree with you and you look silly doing it.

To say that youre fine with other peoples opinions is a joke. You always are trying to throw out your time in the service and how you are better than other people on here that you are in the smart group of Hawkeyes that your opinion is the only logical one and you are going to stop arguments and take the high road.........blah blah blah.


You personally make Hawk fans on this site look bad. How about when you said an ISU player quit the team because he was going to be on a crappy defense? I see you try to jump in on ISU debates and I see how you try to prove your fandom. Well its awful you should stop, there are people on here that know their stuff and know how to debate ISU fans and you are not one of them.
 




That's how you guys come across when you defend kf.

FreedComanche

Do you actually think the NATION is paying any attention to this thread or the hawks fans on this website?

There are a few hundred hawk fans on this website out of maybe 1 million + nationwide. Other sports fans arent even reading the main Mandle article so your premise that the nation is reading this thread is bogus.
 


Amen to this Dave. Would be a welcome year for a surprising result. I'm generally a positive person. If things tank again it's going to be nothing but bitc%ing and moaning for the foreseeable future.

I think this has been happening over the past 8-9 months/since the ISU game last year but people are slowly starting to be cautiously optimistic and hovering around the bowl eligibility line. However, if this team doesn't win more than 4 games or looks like or worse than last season then I envision full scale meltdowns and riots among fans.
 


That's how you guys come across when you defend kf.

FreedComanche

Who was "defending" kf? Again, you're being called out pretty well by others, so I won't belabor the point that you are neither the internet police, nor the HawkeyeNation police. Whether or not you have revealed yourself as "not" being a Hawk fan doesn't affect me one way or the other.
 


Who was "defending" kf? Again, you're being called out pretty well by others, so I won't belabor the point that you are neither the internet police, nor the HawkeyeNation police. Whether or not you have revealed yourself as "not" being a Hawk fan doesn't affect me one way or the other.

Have no desire to be any kinda police. And if you consider being called out when a fool who only pays attention to bits an pieces of the whole post, well, I'm sorry.

Again, this all comes down to how we view kf. Not trying to stop you from posting about it. Sorry if I gave you the impression.

FreedComanche
 


Have no desire to be any kinda police. And if you consider being called out when a fool who only pays attention to bits an pieces of the whole post, well, I'm sorry.

Again, this all comes down to how we view kf. Not trying to stop you from posting about it. Sorry if I gave you the impression.

FreedComanche


Tisk, tisk, with the namecalling young Freed.

I read your whole post, and highlighted the part where you contradicted yourself. Nothing else you said had any merit because of the fact you admitted Mandel was incorrect is his analysis. Simple as that. You can try to spin it however you want.
 






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