BJ being blamed by media for Rose's non- return

[PeoriaHWKI]

Listend to Mike and Mike ( not really just had it on espn radio ) this morning and a Chicago media guy ( Silve? I think ) pretty much put the blame on BJ and that it is all about him not getting the GM job. I never heard this before and wanted to know if there is any truth to this.

 

[tm3308]

I think it's simply a deal where Rose doesn't feel like he's ready. The organization and its fans need to stfu and realize this team isn't making a deep playoff run, with or without Rose. So why rush him back before he's ready, when he's the future of your franchise?

 

[ThunderHawk]

If I ran the Bulls, Rose would be shut down for the rest of the season. They aren't gonna win a title this year. There's no upside in playing him.

 

[ssckelley]

I think it's simply a deal where Rose doesn't feel like he's ready. The organization and its fans need to stfu and realize this team isn't making a deep playoff run, with or without Rose. So why rush him back before he's ready, when he's the future of your franchise?

Because he is slowing down his recovery process. The last phases of recovering from an injury like that is to get out on the court (in game) for 10-15 minutes per game. It does not matter if he comes back now or waits until next season he has to go through this process. Rose seems to think he can practice every day to work through these little aches and pains then come back at full strength, it does not work that way not from an injury like this.

 

[hawkfan33]

If the owner isn't willing to go over the luxury tax line to make a serious run at the title, why should Rose rush back for the team? He needs to look out for himself, his only chance of winning a title is hoping his prime outlasts LeBron's, reaggrevating his knee is not going to help that.

 

[woodyk1]

I think BJ is noticing Gesell's issue and doesn't want something similar happening to Rose.

 

[ssckelley]

If I ran the Bulls, Rose would be shut down for the rest of the season. They aren't gonna win a title this year. There's no upside in playing him.

But it isn't about winning the title, it is about Rose getting through this recovery process and part of that is getting in the court and playing through the soreness and building yourself back up to playing full time. The longer he waits then the longer it will be for him to come back at full strength. I would rather he go through this process now instead of waiting until next season. The Bulls and Rose is not risking anything from him playing this season.

 

[hoffahawk]

Because he is slowing down his recovery process. The last phases of recovering from an injury like that is to get out on the court (in game) for 10-15 minutes per game. It does not matter if he comes back now or waits until next season he has to go through this process. Rose seems to think he can practice every day to work through these little aches and pains then come back at full strength, it does not work that way not from an injury like this.

This 100%.

Rose needs to go see a shrink as it's all in his head right now.

 

[hawkdrummer1]

This 100%.

Rose needs to go see a shrink as it's all in his head right now.

as with most NBA players.

 

[trj]

But it isn't about winning the title, it is about Rose getting through this recovery process and part of that is getting in the court and playing through the soreness and building yourself back up to playing full time. The longer he waits then the longer it will be for him to come back at full strength. I would rather he go through this process now instead of waiting until next season. The Bulls and Rose is not risking anything from him playing this season.

This......The way Rose plays, the jump stops, the way he penetrates, puts a lot pressure on his knees at some point he has to get out there and play without thinking about his knee, the sooner he gets out there and plays the better. Now is just a good of time as November to develop confidence in that knee.

 

[bogeyman]

All this said, they did beat the Heat last night without Noah, Hamilton, the foreign white dude and Rose. If healthy, the Bulls are gutty enough and play good enough D to win a series or two in the playoffs. If Rose returned and helped them who knows, could win a few games. Do I see them beating the Heat in 7? No. But could they get to the Conference Finals? Absolutely.

 

[homes]

This 100%.

Rose needs to go see a shrink as it's all in his head right now.

A knee injury can play with your head. Until you take a blow, you're not quite sure it will hold up, even though it anatomically, it will.

 

[NeilDiamond]

Living in Chicago, this topic is discussed ad nauseum. That said, the best theory I have heard is Rose (who has like 250M in endorsement deals) does not want to damage his "brand" and that of his sponsors by playing mediocre hoops this year and then making a 1-2 rd exit from the playoffs. His Bulls money is a pitance in comparison to this sponsorship money, which is based upon him performing at a certain level. I can see some logic in this thinking, but many fans are losing patience. I for one can't stand the NBA, so I could care less.

 

[hawkfan33]

Living in Chicago, this topic is discussed ad nauseum. That said, the best theory I have heard is Rose (who has like 250M in endorsement deals) does not want to damage his "brand" and that of his sponsors by playing a weak hoops this year and then making a 1-2 rd exit from the playoffs. His Bulls money is a pitance in comparison to this sponsorship money, which is based upon him performing at a certain level. I can see some logic in this thinking, but many fans are losing patience. I for one can't stand the NBA, so I could care less.

If that's the reason, he probably shouldn't have let Adidas start running an ad campaign about him returning from his injury in October, when he's not coming back until an entire year later.

 

[ssckelley]

Living in Chicago, this topic is discussed ad nauseum. That said, the best theory I have heard is Rose (who has like 250M in endorsement deals) does not want to damage his "brand" and that of his sponsors by playing mediocre hoops this year and then making a 1-2 rd exit from the playoffs. His Bulls money is a pitance in comparison to this sponsorship money, which is based upon him performing at a certain level. I can see some logic in this thinking, but many fans are losing patience. I for one can't stand the NBA, so I could care less.

I have heard this as well and that some of it is his ego. Hard telling what the problem is, it is all speculation.

If any of you have ever broken a bone, or dislocation, there are steps you have to take to rehab that limb once the cast/sling comes off. That first visit with the therapist hurts like heck when they bend it out and stretch it, but you have to do it in order to regain that range of motion. Imagine what would happen if you refused the treatment and instead opted to not do the stretches until it did not hurt no more, guess what, you lose that range of motion sometimes forever. This is what Rose is doing by refusing to play, it is not about winning or losing this season or the Bulls winning a championship (this season), it is about Rose being able to regain that level of play that he had before he got injured. No matter how long he prolongs it (this season or next) he will not be able to suddenly jump back into a NBA game and play 30-40 minutes without going through this rehab. No amount of practice time or scrimmages will be able to simulate a live NBA game.

 

[WindsorHawk]

Living in Chicago, this topic is discussed ad nauseum. That said, the best theory I have heard is Rose (who has like 250M in endorsement deals) does not want to damage his "brand" and that of his sponsors by playing mediocre hoops this year and then making a 1-2 rd exit from the playoffs. His Bulls money is a pitance in comparison to this sponsorship money, which is based upon him performing at a certain level. I can see some logic in this thinking, but many fans are losing patience. I for one can't stand the NBA, so I could care less.

I can't stand the NBA either but did enjoy the last 5 minutes of the Bulls - Heat game last night. Made a point of tracking that game at the end.

 

[JonDMiller]

If I ran the Bulls, Rose would be shut down for the rest of the season. They aren't gonna win a title this year. There's no upside in playing him.

Totally agree. Shut him down, and make some moves this off season and run at it next year.

 

[MeatMan]

i think many people have been fooled on what it takes to come back from an ACL reconstruction by Mr Peterson of the Vikings. his case is not the norm, and should not be used to compare to other athletes. actually, as a health care provider, Adrian's case makes me more suspicious than anything. but i won't go down that road here.

 

[ssckelley]

Totally agree. Shut him down, and make some moves this off season and run at it next year.

Why slow down the rehab? He is recovering from ACL not a hamstring injury. He is only hurting himself by refusing to play and waiting.

The only thing I can come up with why he wants to wait is so he can do this rehab during preseason games, that way his limited minutes and pains are being done in games that do not matter. In baseball they have minor leagues for players to rehab, in the NBA they do not use the D League for this (although they could).

 

[JHHawk]

The docs have said he needs to play to finish off his rehab...part of the process.
DRose is scared,understandably,but like Jamal Crawford,who had the same injury said, he was scared also,and it did not feel the same initially,but then,after awhile,it finally just clicked, and he was back to normal,and has never thought about it since...this was 7 years ago.

As for the BJ story, it is totally believable. BJ has issues with Reinsdorf over the GM job,first and foremost. BJ is actually kind of a *****,when it comes to authority.
He had nothing but disdain for Phil Jackson,based on some comments he made after he retired,even tho Phil coached him to rings,and millions of dollars in his post-bull contract with Charlotte.
Frankly, while BJ is smart,he is also somewhat odd,and even weird.

I would believe that he is in DRose's ear about playing again,and wants him to lay low...with his own self-interest first and foremost. Between him and Reggie Rose, they guide DRose,and not well at times.

Reggies comments about the Bulls lack of player movement were idiotic. He does not understand the new CBA, which has really hamstrung the Bulls.
Sure,they could have resigned Omer Asik,but it would have precluded any flexibility to do any player moves next summer.
It is not the actual money that GarPax are worried about, it is the fact that if you go into the luxury tax territory, you are restricted from acquriing players...

DRose should come out and play some minutes soon. Only way to start the process again. He is dominating in practices, but cannot play ten minutes in a game? Crazy.

Bulls management has completely backed off now tho...do not want to alienate DRose,so they will say nothing the rest of the way,but Pax has to be grinding his teeth about BJ's role in this.