PantherMania
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Please tell me i dont really have to explain why a kid not ranked in the top 150 of his class won't be selected to compete with the top 20 players in the country
what year do you think jok becomes a starter at iowa?
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Hawkeye11en1
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No, but you do have to explain how one becomes a fan of UNI. Mind blowing.
PantherMania
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I've never watched UNI play a game unless they played against Iowa
thejumper5
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Is that what I asked you to do? I'm asking you to explain which my points are incorrect. I'll enumerate them to make it easier for you.
My assertions:
1. He has a compelling human-interest story.
2. He isn't as heralded as many players.
3. 25+ ppg and 50/40/90 shooting is pretty impressive at the 4A high school level.
My conclusions:
1. ESPN would push for a player with a compelling human-interest story to be selected for the game.
2. He wouldn't be out of place at the McDonald's game.
3. He has a 2% chance of making the game. That effectively means that once out of every 50 years, he would selected.
racerhawk
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Even guaranteed great players are not guaranteed. This guy was a sure thing at MSU before he got kicked to the curb and had to go to a scrub school:
| Korie Lucious 4 stars | PG | Milwaukee, WIPius XI | 5'10" | 160 | 4 stars | 5.8 | 9/24/06 |
PantherMania
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Ok every one of your conclusions are incorrect. Is that better?
thejumper5
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That's better, buy do you care to elaborate as to why you think those conclusions are incorrect? I buy you thinking #3 is incorrect, though I'm giving him pretty low odds, but not so much the other two.
kmajhawk
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Uh, no. You are speaking to the singular "one" so the verb would be is. You also need a comma and to correctly spell okay. Okay, every one of your conclusions is incorrect.
I think you realize now why people call you a troll.
thejumper5
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Don't forget about Sapp. With the way he's all over the place on D, he'll be a mess for the Big Ten to deal with.
His defense is really impressive and it can only get better. Hopefully he ends up getting better on the offensive side of the ball as well. Although He seems to hit the jumper from the elbow pretty well.
PantherMania
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#1 ESPN would not bring on a kid with one BCS offer to play with the top talent in the country, no chance of that ever happening
#2 He would be out of place, these are the best players in the country, a kid not in the top 150 that nobody wanted would not fit in there, now ay.
#3 If you really think there is even half of a percentage chance Jok would be a McDonald's all american than you really don't understand how they select the players. They select on talent. No 3* has ever got invited to play in it. I think most people on this board would agree
thejumper5
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Either you're missing my point on #1, or you're articulating yourself very poorly.
We'll have to agree to disagree on #2. He easily fits among the best players in the country now that he's healthy.
You're right that no 3-star has been selected and that they choose players based on talent. I think you'll find that when players are re-evaluated by the recruiting services following the season, Jok will no longer be a 3-star.
PantherMania
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How am I missing your point on #1? There are a ton of players out there that have stories, no possible way ESPN would push for a kid that held offers from us and Drake to play in a McDonald's All American game. The fact you think there is a chance it can happen is delusional.
thejumper5
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You're bringing too much extra into my first conclusion. What I'm saying is that all else being equal, ESPN like human interest stories. If they have a choice between two players that are identical in every single way, they would advocate for the player with the more compelling story every time.
PantherMania
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How am I bringing too much into that first conclusion? You said I was missing the point of it, your point being:
1. ESPN would push for a player with a compelling human-interest story to be selected for the game.
So I explained why I thought that was ridiculous that was one of your conclusions. If a player was similar to him you could say that but obviously 5* top 20 kids aren't going to be even close to similar so it makes no sense to even bring that up
thejumper5
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What I'm saying is that all else being equal, ESPN like human interest stories. If they have a choice between two players that are identical in every single way, they would advocate for the player with the more compelling story every time.
PantherMania
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I'm aware of what you're saying but how is that one of your conclusions he has a shot to be invited to the game? One of your 3 reasons why he has a chance to get invited is:
1. ESPN would push for a player with a compelling human-interest story to be selected for the game.
Are you saying you think he could be identical with a 5* top 20 talent level kid or what am I missing here?
I just hope coach plays the top 5 guys and starts who earns it. If Jok is healthy and 100% he'll provide a couple things this team needs. 3pt shooting and defending the other teams shooting guard or small forward. Trying to predict now if he'll start early and often is tough to do with the lineup coming back being a year older. He'll play alot early tho if for no other reason then his 3 pt shooting.
